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Article 30 grievance

realroutecarrier

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Does anyone know what an article 30 grievance is? I can’t find it but I’m told that our office needs to file an article 30 grievance which should make management hire us some help? Is this right?
 
realroutecarrier -- " Does anyone know what an article 30 grievance is? I can’t find it but I’m told that our office needs to file an article 30 grievance which should make management hire us some help? "

-- Sounds like Article 30.2.A.2.

- The Employer SHALL make every effort to expeditiously fill leave replacement vacancies as they occur. Regular rural carriers SHALL have the right to require that a leave replacement be assigned to their route.

-- If no one is lining up at the door to be hired and the local manglement is not beating the bushes to flush out potential hirees, not much else to be done.

-- On the other hand, if manglement does somehow hire an RCA for every route, RCA's will most likely be looking for additional jobs as working one or two days a pay period is not going to meet today's family finances.

-- A happy median exists somewhere in between.
 
I currently have a class action at step 2 for 17 120 Day Letters that lapsed. Now they need to post 17 PTF positions. My PM hates me.
I don’t understand what the problem is with hiring people! I wish I had the job of doing the hiring! I think someone should be just steady sending people into offices not waiting on a postmaster to do it! R they just lazy? What’s the problem??
 
Here in the northeast, $19 bucks an hr just doesn't cut it. On top of having to provide a pov no one in their right mind wants the job. Plus, no benefits! The grocery stores are paying $18-$19 to stock shelves , a union job with benefits and you get paid for every hour you work! What a novel concept! Plus a.c. in summer, heat and out of the snow in winter.
 
in the last 6 weeks 4 RCA's hired in the last 2 weeks two have said screw it I am out of here and 1 more will walk or be asked to walk before next week is up manager was pissed 3 days and they haven't taken the whole route or amazon yet. Why would they stay when those that cannot do the job are judging them on a standard that in realty they cannot reach
 
I currently have a class action at step 2 for 17 120 Day Letters that lapsed. Now they need to post 17 PTF positions. My PM hates me.
Why would they need to post 17 PTFs? You would have to have a minimum of 34 K-routes without Primary RCAs to cover that many PTF positions.
To cover that many 120-Day letters, there could be as little as 4 PTFs to be Compliant & each would have 4 or 5 routes on each String. Much easier & better to get less PTFs with more routes than More PTFs with less routes.
 
in the last 6 weeks 4 RCA's hired in the last 2 weeks two have said screw it I am out of here and 1 more will walk or be asked to walk before next week is up manager was pissed 3 days and they haven't taken the whole route or amazon yet. Why would they stay when those that cannot do the job are judging them on a standard that in realty they cannot reach
The last hiring blitz we had was about a year ago...only 1 guy showed up....and he always needs help, never takes a whole route out( even the small j routes) and has meltdowns almost daily...???
 
Why would they need to post 17 PTFs? You would have to have a minimum of 34 K-routes without Primary RCAs to cover that many PTF positions.
To cover that many 120-Day letters, there could be as little as 4 PTFs to be Compliant & each would have 4 or 5 routes on each String. Much easier & better to get less PTFs with more routes than More PTFs with less routes.
our 2 ptf's call in 6 to 8 days a month only 4 routes each
 
Same situation here i haven't had a sub in a year as of july filed the request for a sub ,,,nuthin called the union nuthin but they have no problem hiring clerks union tells me well with coronavirus things is slow why even have a academy you dont learn shit there so yea bring on 5 day work weeks
 
Virus restrictions on sharing the same airspace have made trainings, and shadow days, ridiculously unproductive. Those RCA's who have come in under this mess and actually stay and try to carry a part of the route should be commended, encouraged, helped in any way possible, and given plenty of atta-boys by the regs who want a relief person to lean on. Yes, it's irritating when "I never got babied like this!" and "in my day, it was sink or swim, sweetheart, so suck it up!" is in the reg's bitter thoughts, but we don't have to EXPRESS those thoughts...c'mon, have a heart, help the little fledglings. NO disrespect intended to newbies or old, disgruntled regs!!!!
 
Virus restrictions on sharing the same airspace have made trainings, and shadow days, ridiculously unproductive. Those RCA's who have come in under this mess and actually stay and try to carry a part of the route should be commended, encouraged, helped in any way possible, and given plenty of atta-boys by the regs who want a relief person to lean on. Yes, it's irritating when "I never got babied like this!" and "in my day, it was sink or swim, sweetheart, so suck it up!" is in the reg's bitter thoughts, but we don't have to EXPRESS those thoughts...c'mon, have a heart, help the little fledglings. NO disrespect intended to newbies or old, disgruntled regs!!!!
My new sub is smart as a whip! He came in under these COVID conditions & still gets it. Trained together (separate vehicles) for the maximum 5 days & ran it on his own 3 days later... no help at all & very few mistakes. Thrown on a different route Saturday due to my working RDWL & got a little bit of help but likely would have been back by 5 without it. Today, 2nd time on my route (Staycationing) & he was back at 3... on a Monday!
Just depends on the person as to whether they make it in these times or not.
 
My new sub is smart as a whip! He came in under these COVID conditions & still gets it. Trained together (separate vehicles) for the maximum 5 days & ran it on his own 3 days later... no help at all & very few mistakes. Thrown on a different route Saturday due to my working RDWL & got a little bit of help but likely would have been back by 5 without it. Today, 2nd time on my route (Staycationing) & he was back at 3... on a Monday!
Just depends on the person as to whether they make it in these times or not.
How fortunate for you to have found such a go-getter. Or unicorn. Others, not having that same good fortune experience, and having to coax the best out of more "average" candidates. Passing the screenings is more than half the battle for some--so when they walk through the door, all acceptable and stuff, we need to do as much as we can to keep the USPS from flushing that investment down the toilet in a week or two...js.
 
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