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2021 Christmas Holiday pay đź’°

Jeeper82

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So Christmas falls on a Saturday This year which is probably most of our days off. Would our holiday day be Friday or Monday? If a regular has to work due to an insufficient number of RCA’s on whatever day is supposed to be the paid holiday is it 150% or more?
 
So Christmas falls on a Saturday This year which is probably most of our days off. Would our holiday day be Friday or Monday? If a regular has to work due to an insufficient number of RCA’s on whatever day is supposed to be the paid holiday is it 150% or more?
If you work your holiday, it's 100% your regular rate and you get paid for your holiday. You end up with just an extra paid day on your check. So on Saturday holidays if your k day is Saturday, you now are off Friday but if you are forced to work it's just a regular days pay.
 
From the contract article 11 section 2
B. When a holiday falls on the relief day of an evaluated
carrier, the carrier shall be granted the preceding work
day as the designated holiday. When the primary leave
replacement is unavailable on the carrier’s designated
holiday and other leave replacements are unavailable in
accordance with Article 30.2.D., the regular carrier may
be scheduled to work on the designated holiday. For the
purpose of this section, a leave replacement is considered
unavailable when he or she is assigned to work on any
regular or auxiliary route. A regular rural carrier required
to work on a designated holiday shall receive the daily
rate of pay for such day in addition to holiday leave pay to
which the employee is entitled.
C. If a regular rural carrier is required to work on the desig-
nated Christmas holiday, such carrier shall receive one and
one-half (1 1/2) times the daily rate of pay in addition to
the holiday leave pay
 
Are you sure? Friday becomes the K day if Saturday is your normal K day. Therefore, if you work your holiday, you get DACAV code. Which should be 150%?
Working the holiday is not the same as working your k day. You'll only receive a 5 if you're working your normal k day. The system won't recognize a DACA 5 for a Saturday in your case of having Mondays as a k day. It can only be entered as DACA 5 on your actual k day. One could only wish that would be the case. I do. It's a raw deal. The only way to protect your new 'holiday k day' is to take a day off in conjunction to protect that holiday from being forced in to work. FYI I'm a Monday k route too.
 
So Christmas falls on a Saturday This year which is probably most of our days off. Would our holiday day be Friday or Monday? If a regular has to work due to an insufficient number of RCA’s on whatever day is supposed to be the paid holiday is it 150% or more?
Christmas AND New Years both fall on Saturday. All Saturday Relief Day carriers will receive Friday as their Holiday; Relief Day NEVER moves.

Now… if a Carrier works their Christmas Holiday, they will be paid 150% their daily rate PLUS the Holiday Pay. This is he ONLY Holiday that pays at 150%. If a Carrier works their New Years Holiday, they are paid 100% their daily PLUS the Holiday Pay.
 
Christmas AND New Years both fall on Saturday. All Saturday Relief Day carriers will receive Friday as their Holiday; Relief Day NEVER moves.

Now… if a Carrier works their Christmas Holiday, they will be paid 150% their daily rate PLUS the Holiday Pay. This is he ONLY Holiday that pays at 150%. If a Carrier works their New Years Holiday, they are paid 100% their daily PLUS the Holiday Pay.
so i take it IF one has to work Xmas Holiday on Friday. those hours do not count for the wks total hours for the wk?
With respect towards weekly hours, is the dec 18th to dec 24 wk just a 5 day wk for J routes( xmas day j day) and 4 day wk for k routes? with the Friday hours not accumulating towards wkly OT?
 
Working the holiday is not the same as working your k day. You'll only receive a 5 if you're working your normal k day. The system won't recognize a DACA 5 for a Saturday in your case of having Mondays as a k day. It can only be entered as DACA 5 on your actual k day. One could only wish that would be the case. I do. It's a raw deal. The only way to protect your new 'holiday k day' is to take a day off in conjunction to protect that holiday from being forced in to work. FYI I'm a Monday k route too.
System is programmed to recognize K days and holidays. They're different, as stated above.

Used to be able to change your K day in system if both days were changed to same day within a two week period. Not sure if that can still be done.
 
so i take it IF one has to work Xmas Holiday on Friday. those hours do not count for the wks total hours for the wk?
With respect towards weekly hours, is the dec 18th to dec 24 wk just a 5 day wk for J routes( xmas day j day) and 4 day wk for k routes? with the Friday hours not accumulating towards wkly OT?
All hours that you actually work count.
J routes would have either Christmas Eve or New Years Eve as their Holiday.

If your wondering for purpose of the Christmas OT Period, that ends on December 24. If that is the designated Holiday for a J or K route, it would not count since it is paid at 150%.
 
How's it work for someone that has the Friday/Saturday relief day, is Thursday their holiday? If so does that mean their pay is (Thru) straight pay plus holiday, (Friday) 1 1/2 pay and Saturday straight pay for second relief day off?
 
How's it work for someone that has the Friday/Saturday relief day, is Thursday their holiday? If so does that mean their pay is (Thru) straight pay plus holiday, (Friday) 1 1/2 pay and Saturday straight pay for second relief day off?
Not absolute but I believe Thursday would be their “Holiday” with Christmas @ 150% or New Year’s @ 100% if they work it. Friday is still their Relief Day so R5 for working Christmas Eve or R3/R5 for New Year’s Eve. Depends on which weekend the Relief Days fall on.
 
Not absolute but I believe Thursday would be their “Holiday” with Christmas @ 150% or New Year’s @ 100% if they work it. Friday is still their Relief Day so R5 for working Christmas Eve or R3/R5 for New Year’s Eve. Depends on which weekend the Relief Days fall on.
So does that mean that Thursday if you work you earn hourly plus you get 1.5 for the X-mas holiday?

We have someone in our office that this applies to for both Holidays this year! They will most likely not get a day off other than the Holiday either weekend. So they will be working 6 days Dec 18th thru 24th X-mas week. Xmas week they will get 5 days of straight pay and Holiday pay at 1.5 pay for working Thursday their holiday & working Friday their K day. The second week they will be working 5 days Dec 25th thru 31st New years week they will work 4 days at straight pay, get paid for the holiday and work their K day at 1.5 pay.

So lets just say they work 8 hrs. a day just to make it easy!

Week #1 would be Sat 8 + M 8 + T 8 + W 8 + (Th 8+12 for working holiday) + (F 12 for working K-day) = 56 hours with 24 at 1.5 pay?

Week #2 would be Sat 0 + M 8 + T 8 + W 8 + (Th 8 + 8 for working holiday) + (F 12 for working K-day) = 48 hours with 12 at 1.5 pay?

Is this right or am I missing something?
 
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So does that mean that Thursday if you work you earn hourly plus you get 1.5 for the X-mas holiday?

We have someone in our office that this applies to for both Holidays this year! They will most likely not get a day off other than the Holiday either weekend. So they will be working 6 days Dec 18th thru 24th X-mas week. Xmas week they will get 5 days of straight pay and Holiday pay at 1.5 pay for working Thursday their holiday & working Friday their X day. The second week they will be working 5 days Dec 25th thru 31st New years week they will work 4 days at straight pay, get paid for the holiday and work their K day at 1.5 pay.

So lets just say they work 8 hrs. a day just to make it easy!

Week #1 would be Sat 8 + M 8 + T 8 + W 8 + (Th 8+12 for working holiday) + (F 12 for working X-day) = 64 hours with 24 at 1.5 pay?

Week #2 would be Sat 0 + M 8 + T 8 + W 8 + (Th 8 + 8 for working holiday) + (F 12 for working X-day) = 60 hours with 20 at 1.5 pay?

Is this right or am I missing something?
Why are there X-days? Are you meaning to say K-days? X-days are earned extra days off.
It’s not possible for someone to have rotation days off on both weekends.
 
Why are there X-days? Are you meaning to say K-days? X-days are earned extra days off.
It’s not possible for someone to have rotation days off on both weekends.
Yes, wherever I typed X day I meant K day, and yes you're correct, their rotation is 24th 25th. I don’t know what I was thinking so only week one applies.

My post #12 is mostly junk now, too much to fix, but can you answer if I calculated week #1 hours correctly?
 
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Yes, wherever I typed x day I meant k day, and yes you correct, their rotation is 24th 25th. I don’t know what I was thinking so only week one applies.
In that case, Thursday would be the Christmas Holiday since it is the preceding workday and would pay at 150%. Christmas Eve would remain their Relief Day or if they work it would also pay 150%.
So Sat 12/18, 12/20, 12/21, & 12/22 would be 100% pay & 12/23 & 12/24 would both be 150%
Article 11.2.B & C
 
In that case, Thursday would be the Christmas Holiday since it is the preceding workday and would pay at 150%. Christmas Eve would remain their Relief Day or if they work it would also pay 150%.
So Sat 12/18, 12/20, 12/21, & 12/22 would be 100% pay & 12/23 & 12/24 would both be 150%
Article 11.2.B & C
What about the actual holiday pay? Do you get 150% for having to work plus 100% for holiday pay? When a holiday is moved due to it falling on your K day on any other holiday you get the equivalent of 200% for that day, so is that Thursday 250%?
 
So after reading all of this what do you put down on Friday for coding purposes? Our office didn't realize that they were suppose to have us Saturday K people off on Friday.
 
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