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17 call outs in one day

FXDL2003

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Accordong to ur supervisor., so take it as possibly true. A town about 3.5 hours away from had 6 carriers that were placed on "emergency placement" for not wearing their seatbelts on Thursday. The MPOO's new pet PM (only been with PO for like 3 years) got sent 150 miles away to follow carriers around for seatbelt violations. Today 17 carriers called out sick in that office plus the the 6 already off. Our supervisor had to drive there to help deliver this morning 🤣🤣🤣. Maybe someone with a brain doesn't suspend people leading into a holiday weekend?? Or an official discussion first before EP. Just dumb, they got what they deserve. So proud of those 17 carriers!!! Play stupid game = win stupid prizes!
 
If they are going to harass carriers then they won't have carriers to deliver the mail. Those 17 carriers are a real union!

Maybe they should send management to do a REAL route inspections and fix all the non-compliant mailboxes that a carrier had to unbuckle to reach. It would be a far better use of overpaid postal management pets.

Even better, FIX the vehicles that need repairs. I've seen too many vehicles with buckles and belts that don't even work right and management tells people "just be careful".
 
Accordong to ur supervisor., so take it as possibly true. A town about 3.5 hours away from had 6 carriers that were placed on "emergency placement" for not wearing their seatbelts on Thursday. The MPOO's new pet PM (only been with PO for like 3 years) got sent 150 miles away to follow carriers around for seatbelt violations. Today 17 carriers called out sick in that office plus the the 6 already off. Our supervisor had to drive there to help deliver this morning 🤣🤣🤣. Maybe someone with a brain doesn't suspend people leading into a holiday weekend?? Or an official discussion first before EP. Just dumb, they got what they deserve. So proud of those 17 carriers!!! Play stupid game = win stupid prizes!
Those people are my HEROES!!! 🤠🤠🤠
 
If they are going to harass carriers then they won't have carriers to deliver the mail. Those 17 carriers are a real union!

Maybe they should send management to do a REAL route inspections and fix all the non-compliant mailboxes that a carrier had to unbuckle to reach. It would be a far better use of overpaid postal management pets.

Even better, FIX the vehicles that need repairs. I've seen too many vehicles with buckles and belts that don't even work right and management tells people "just be careful".
This comment is for you Charlie Brown.....you dont care, or have sympathy about carriers getting ep, then maybe you should care about po mgmt never doing their jobs right, and all the people theyve fired, stole from, and yes, even got killed because they didnt fix, or provide what's needed to do the job.... what a dingbat... Jaymac....this comment right here is my favorite of the day. GOOD JOB BUDDY, I couldnt have said it better than that...🤠
 
Every postal employee that drives any govt. provided vehicle knows that wearing your seat belt is rule number one. So six carriers (rural or city) that can't be bothered to wear their seat belts and are suspended would get no sympathy from me.
The problem that comes up about seatbelts is, what constitutes "Wearing your seatbelts?".
Many managers believe, and our district driving instructor teaches that the shoulder strap, with the seatbelt must be worn whenever an LLV is in motion. This is not true according to previously settled grievances.
The shoulder belt may be detached anytime it is believed to encumber the carrier while delivering, but consideration should be made when conditions suggest it should be worn. Those conditions are higher speed limits, congested traffic, intersections, weather conditions etc. But those considerations are to be made by the carrier, not management. To and from the route, the full seatbelt is to be worn.
 
2. Safety Belts

You must wear safety belts at all times the
vehicle is in motion. When driving a long life
vehicle (LLV), you must wear the lap belt and
shoulder belt whenever the vehicle is in motion.
Exception: When shoulder belts prevent you
from reaching to deliver or collect from curbside
mailboxes, you may unfasten the shoulder belt,
but never the lap belt.
 
The problem that comes up about seatbelts is, what constitutes "Wearing your seatbelts?".
Many managers believe, and our district driving instructor teaches that the shoulder strap, with the seatbelt must be worn whenever an LLV is in motion. This is not true according to previously settled grievances.
The shoulder belt may be detached anytime it is believed to encumber the carrier while delivering, but consideration should be made when conditions suggest it should be worn. Those conditions are higher speed limits, congested traffic, intersections, weather conditions etc. But those considerations are to be made by the carrier, not management. To and from the route, the full seatbelt is to be worn.

It's apples and oranges I know but....This to me shows that management doesn't really have a clue on what to do to right this ship...other than hire more management and be super strict on everything. How much money is wasted on these people driving around...not doing their actual jobs, looking for people to put off the clock. We just had someone(local management claims they are a failed vmf that hasn't been fired yet) come through every town going south, gigging people on sometimes legit, sometimes minute, sometimes made up("they were speeding because I had to go over the speed limit to catch up" which is something you would have to do even if they were going the speed limit if you we far enough behind them)

How much of this is gigging carriers for events that management essentially encouraged from the moment they got in the postal service? Faster faster faster. Yes, the carriers doing this should be addressed but I sincerely wish for management to take some responsibility on this also.

Never gonna happen, I know..
 
If you are blatantly not following the rules, you get no sympathy from me. Especially when we have service talks monthly about making sure to wear your seatbelts. These are probably the same idiots who constantly leave the truck running and are not in the vehicle.
 
They will all get LWOP for pay
Best case scenario.

If someone is dumb enough to admit they did it in protest they can be fired and WILL lose the arbitration if USPS goes all the way with it. It wouldn't be the first time they've been able to fire people for protesting (which it sounds like this was).
 
2. Safety Belts

You must wear safety belts at all times the
vehicle is in motion. When driving a long life
vehicle (LLV), you must wear the lap belt and
shoulder belt whenever the vehicle is in motion.
Exception: When shoulder belts prevent you
from reaching to deliver or collect from curbside
mailboxes, you may unfasten the shoulder belt,
but never the lap belt.
i am from the mid 80's, so forgive me if wrong, but i don't think this matches the p.o. 603
 
i am from the mid 80's, so forgive me if wrong, but i don't think this matches the p.o. 603
Yeah, I started in '94 and got out in '24. I looked at The 603 and there are a few sections regarding the seat belt.

b. Seat Belt Requirements — Driving Own or Postal Vehicle

(1) Seat belts must be worn at all times when operating a Postal
Service—owned or -leased vehicle. If a privately owned
right-hand drive (RHD) vehicle is used on the route, seat belts
must be worn at all times and the carrier must be positioned
directly behind the steering wheel whenever the vehicle is being
operated. Carriers driving RHD vehicles equipped with both
shoulder and lap belts may disengage the shoulder belt only in
those situations when the shoulder belt prevents their ability to
deliver or collect mail from curbside mailboxes
. The lap belt must
be worn at all times the vehicle is being operated. A privately
owned vehicle fully equipped with dual controls (steering wheel,
brake, and gas pedals) is considered an RHD vehicle for the
purpose of this requirement.

So, what I previously posted lines up with the above. Then, there is this ;

(2) When operating a privately owned left-hand drive (LHD) vehicle,
seat belts must be worn and the carrier must be positioned
directly behind the steering wheel when traveling to and from the
route, between Postal Service units, and during any deviations
from the established line of travel beyond one-half mile for
delivery, including travel between routes when service is
provided on more than one route. A privately owned vehicle
partially equipped with dual controls is considered an LHD
vehicle for the purpose of this requirement.

After that......................we have this ;

(3) If a privately owned left-hand drive (LHD) vehicle is used on the
route, it is advisable that the rural carrier use seat belts and be
positioned behind the steering wheel when delivery and
collection activities do not unduly encumber, delay, or fatigue the
rural carrier. When using a privately owned LHD vehicle on the
route, the rural carrier may operate the vehicle without use of the
seat belt and/or without being positioned directly behind the
steering wheel provided the carrier determines it is safe to do so.

The rural carrier should consider the following factors when
assessing the use of the seat belt and appropriate seating
position:

(a) Distance between stops.
(b) Traffic density and weather conditions.
(c) Road design characteristics, such as number of
intersections traversed, road shoulder width, and surface
conditions.
(d) Other factors affecting safety

I am seeing that "safety" is a conflicting issue with respect to LH drive POV and RH drive POV / Govt. vehicle.
THANX @NorthernPines !!! It sorta checks out , anyway. Depending upon the type of and who owns the vehicle.
 
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