Another unanswered RRECS question

[RFD]

I submitted this question to the national website, but it never made it to the Q&A page. (Imagine that) If I have a package addressed for Henry Munster at 22 Mockingbird Lane which is a vacant lot, but he lives at 26 Mockingbird Lane and I deliver it there, do I get credit? I have been scanning these normally, but then immediately putting in an unscannable parcel delivered to the door, just to make sure I at least get most of the credit I'm supposed to. I have a few customers with home businesses that are located seperate from their house. Then again, supposedly we aren't getting credit for PO packages sorted to our route, even if we scan them return to sender.

 

[She mails rural]

Me personally don't think any of this scanner stuff is getting credited right even if it even shows up right. But I'd just scan it left with neighbor because mapping is done by addresses not names. Idk that's what I'd do?

 

[Rcflyn]

I submitted this question to the national website, but it never made it to the Q&A page. (Imagine that) If I have a package addressed for Henry Munster at 22 Mockingbird Lane which is a vacant lot, but he lives at 26 Mockingbird Lane and I deliver it there, do I get credit? I have been scanning these normally, but then immediately putting in an unscannable parcel delivered to the door, just to make sure I at least get most of the credit I'm supposed to. I have a few customers with home businesses that are located seperate from their house. Then again, supposedly we aren't getting credit for PO packages sorted to our route, even if we scan them return to sender.

Maybe scan it “left with neighbor” ??? It sounds like it’d be the neighbor to the individual as you described it??? Just a thought, I’m sure someone will tell us if I’m incorrect.

 

[RR5]

I submitted this question to the national website, but it never made it to the Q&A page. (Imagine that) If I have a package addressed for Henry Munster at 22 Mockingbird Lane which is a vacant lot, but he lives at 26 Mockingbird Lane and I deliver it there, do I get credit? I have been scanning these normally, but then immediately putting in an unscannable parcel delivered to the door, just to make sure I at least get most of the credit I'm supposed to. I have a few customers with home businesses that are located seperate from their house. Then again, supposedly we aren't getting credit for PO packages sorted to our route, even if we scan them return to sender.

I take a unscanparcel also in these situations. Doesn't happen too often. I also do sometimes when I get a parcel that won't scan and have to manually input the numbers. I quickly check package look ahead, and if it isn't in there, I take a unscanparcel also.

 

[Rcflyn]

I take a unscanparcel also in these situations. Doesn't happen too often.

But I’m in the understanding “unscan” don’t pay the same?? (Unsure)…..
plus, if it does have a scan barcode, do you just not scan the bar code, and leave it open, for failures??? Or scan barcode, plus unscan, which is falsification…..
either way, to me, this leaves you in too many uncertainties to get yourself into hot water..

 

[RFD]

But I’m in the understanding “unscan” don’t pay the same?? (Unsure)…..
plus, if it does have a scan barcode, do you just not scan the bar code, and leave it open, for failures??? Or scan barcode, plus unscan, which is falsification…..
either way, to me, this leaves you in too many uncertainties to get yourself into hot water..

At this point in my career, I could give a rat's @@. MRA in less than two months.

 

[RFD]

Maybe scan it “left with neighbor” ??? It sounds like it’d be the neighbor to the individual as you described it??? Just a thought, I’m sure someone will tell us if I’m incorrect.

It's still connected to the address and barcode

 

[Rcflyn]

At this point in my career, I could give a rat's @@. MRA in less than two months.

Understood, and GOOD FOR YOU! CONGRATULATIONS!
But, dont advise something that could potentially harm them….

 

[Rcflyn]

It's still connected to the address and barcode

So then “left with neighbor” would be the best choice in this instance?

 

[ATCBigE]

Here's my unanswered question for the day.

Just thinking about what I was told from last count, how they claim the local newspaper drop off were based on how much the company paid for the deliver, why do I have to mark boxholders and/or WSS when they are paid for just like papers and are usually dropped off at post office???

It was just a thought that crossed my mind today.

 

[Rcflyn]

Here's my unanswered question for the day.

Just thinking about what I was told from last count, how they claim the local newspaper drop off were based on how much the company paid for the deliver, why do I have to mark boxholders and/or WSS when they are paid for just like papers and are usually dropped off at post office???

It was just a thought that crossed my mind today.

Good point! Especially, concidering! Our 2-3-4 penny savers, come on the truck, which came from the plant, so, shouldn’t they already be “counted”?? But yet, we input them each time they come in, so therotically, by inputting them, I’m double dipping? Yet we gotta fight for our 30-100 local papers that “supposedly” we’re counted, even tho they’re dropped off at the back door by the paper itself…….

 

[jaymacgthree]

But I’m in the understanding “unscan” don’t pay the same?? (Unsure)…..
plus, if it does have a scan barcode, do you just not scan the bar code, and leave it open, for failures??? Or scan barcode, plus unscan, which is falsification…..
either way, to me, this leaves you in too many uncertainties to get yourself into hot water..

You are correct. Scanning a barcoded package delivered followed by un-scanned parcel is falsification. Delivery credit is given when you scanned it the first time. What you should be doing is following up with Postmaster to look at DPM and see if distance for service to the door is correct. I would not falsely make an entry that can get you walked out the door to gain a 1/10th of second lol

 

[Worve]

Just a thought but manually punch the barcode number in. No ping for it gets recorded just the act of delivering it to front door. Given if said package gets reported lost etc no ping to back up you that it was delivered properly either .

 

[Rcflyn]

Just a thought but manually punch the barcode number in. No ping for it gets recorded just the act of delivering it to front door. Given if said package gets reported lost etc no ping to back up you that it was delivered properly either .

Not doubting this (hejj, can we doubt anything these days) but what makes you think this?
I think, wether scan or punch in numbers, the bread crumbs give our location. (We are typing in numbers for 15-30 seconds (depending on your eye sight), so plenty of bread crumbs are being dropped typing in numbers….. (just a thought)

 

[Edge]

Can’t falsify anything if no one knows the answer.

It’s your duty under rrecs to record every action you make as a carrier it’s your job responsibility. Until someone can confirm the answer 100% you must make sure you get accredited for the delivery task so if you feel there is a delivery error with the parcel or address it’s your job to record unscan parcel or trip to door, some type of credit or you will be falsifying the delivery by doing the task for free.

/drop mic

 

[Deer Smearer]

Actually an easy solution.

VAC

Send it back.

They’ll correct the address, and you’ll get credit.

 

[Rcflyn]

Can’t falsify anything if no one knows the answer.

It’s your duty under rrecs to record every action you make as a carrier it’s your job responsibility. Until someone can confirm the answer 100% you must make sure you get accredited for the delivery task so if you feel there is a delivery error with the parcel or address it’s your job to record unscan parcel or trip to door, some type of credit or you will be falsifying the delivery by doing the task for free.

/drop mic

But, it’s my word against theirs, and I guarantee you, their word/bread crumb will prove me wrong….. now what? According to them, I’ve falisified. According to me, nobody’s taught me/told me other wise….. who’ll be wrong? Not them!
They can confirm anything they want. We can basically confirm NOTHING, other than a bread crumb dropped…. And I can’t manipulate that bread crumb…. But they can….. now, who wins?

 

[Worve]

Not doubting this (hejj, can we doubt anything these days) but what makes you think this?
I think, wether scan or punch in numbers, the bread crumbs give our location. (We are typing in numbers for 15-30 seconds (depending on your eye sight), so plenty of bread crumbs are being dropped typing in numbers….. (just a thought)

But with it being the wrong number if you scan at correct location not the one listed on parcel. You would be most likely outside the geofence for it and may or may not receive credit.

try it once punch in numbers have sup look up the parcel. It won’t have a ping on map showing location just what you entered for delivery location.

gotta remember this is a stystem developed but the P.O. nothing talks to anything .

 

[Rt2mailman]

Here’s what I do, because I try to maximize every scan I can. First you should scan the piece returned because it is a no mail receptacle. Then the next day, having kept it at your case, take it with you and attempt contact with the customer. If you can talk with him ask, “What is up?”. If he is building a house at the vacant lot have him put a box up, if not have him correct the address or all of the rest of his parcels will be returned due to being a vacant address. Using this method either gets you an extra box or two scans for that one parcel. Scanning anything on a different day gives you credit for that parcel on each day. For example, if a customer wants you to return all parcels from a particular company, you could do that and receive one scan for that returned parcel, but if you deliver it you get a delivery scan one day and a returned scan the next. Knowing the customer and their request you could place the parcel on hold one day and scan it returned the next for two parcel credits for the same parcel while following the customer’s request. Also any Sunday/holiday parcels left in the box shouldn’t be there and can be scanned delivered by you the next day as deliver in the box, if they fit with your delivery for that day, or to the door if you now have to take it to the door. If there is no need for you to even touch it you probably can’t legally justify the extra scan, but if you have to rearrange it to put your mail/parcels in, then scan away.

 

[Rcflyn]

Ya know, I’ve never in my entire life, had more mistrust with the company I worked for…. And more mistrust for my union…
my last horrible job I had (while working an aux route with the po), I got run over by a fork lift. I’ve got tib fib titanium plats, screwed into my lower leg. 2 plates, 20ish screws holding those plates and my ankle together. I absolutely hated that job (even before my accident), but at least there, we had a REAL union (uaw). The pay sucked, the work sucked even more, but the uaw stuck up for us! Percentage wise, we probably got more than the nrlca gets us, but end dollar wise, I think I saw more money (I’ll have to look at pay stubs) (big differences in pay, so I’m probably off)…. But the uaw had our backs….. we NEVER went much over contract expiration date…. We NEVER waited on negotiated back pay! We NEVER had pay roll issues!
I’d much rather work under those conditions than what we go thru. (That company has sence moved to Mexico and Detroit, so I can’t go back)……
some times, I think “I’d rather be run over by a fork lift again, than put up with the bs the nrlca / po puts us thru……”. At least the uaw fought for us……. The nrlca folds over, saying “this is the best we can do folks, vote yes!” They’re right! With the uaw, I could vote “strike”…. Nrlca, I’m forked! I get what they tell me I get! And nrlca sleeps with po, so we get what the po wants……