jsthere723
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You are allowed to do that unlike city side I believe. The point I was trying to make is there is no credit allocated for DPS casing . I also case everything on advo day
Are there any carriers in favor of RRECS?
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Anyone in a POV left hand drive is simply amazing to me!!!! I couldn't imagine doing this job in that type of vehicle.
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You have every ounce of my respect.
Anyone in a POV left hand drive is simply amazing to me!!!! I couldn't imagine doing this job in that type of vehicle.
You have every ounce of my respect.
Even after I went regular I still do once sometimes twice a week (Buick LeSabre) beast of a mail car. Just drive it enough to keep her going. One of my best purchases ever.
Voglio-il mio
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I know, Sorry if I sounded a little excited, but they have been trying to force the Rural Route Scheduling Tool results down our throats in my district. They are trying to limit office time in the morning based on a formula for taking DPS to the street. We all Case everything here and are all well under evaluation daily, but they are harassing us to leave for the street based on data that's applied for a method we don't use.
I'm about ready to file a grievance for creating a hostile work environment for harassment in trying to force a non contractual standard. Meeting Weekly Evaluation is the only measurement that should matter. How we choose to use that evaluation on a daily basis to meet that expectation is up to each Rural Carrier.
Yes I just laugh at all of this stuff. Want to manage office time, and we know what will be next our load and end of day.
Who cares as long as the @##%ing job gets done in timely and safe matter. If you are taking 9 hours to do 6 hours there's maybe an issue. But if you are doing 9 hours in 8.5 to 9 hours each day, what does it matter?
Again this place wonders why people leave and quit all the time??? They just make up more
every single day and harass us the carriers.Voglio-il mio -- "I know, Sorry if I sounded a little excited, but they have been trying to force the Rural Route Scheduling Tool results down our throats in my district. They are trying to limit office time in the morning based on a formula for taking DPS to the street. We all Case everything here and are all well under evaluation daily, but they are harassing us to leave for the street based on data that's applied for a method we don't use."
-- First of all, request ( demand ) in writing with a signature, an order to take DPS to the street.
-- When the complaints start that you are taking too long on the streets, laugh and say that you were doing what they ordered you to do. By all means, show me how to do better on the streets.
-- It takes TIME to work out a system for taking DPS to the streets. I did it for a time, but preferred casing everything. That way forwards and mis-sorted mail were dealt with before hitting the streets. Totally different set up for the LLV and POV. Probably the same could be said for the Metris.
-- On the plus side it should add lots of EOS time, which will get manglement complaining once again.
-- You might be able to head off ill feelings by showing manglement Step 4 ( C-14 ) ( aka the Galligan letter ), in part:
- The decision to carry DPS directly to the street should be made on a case-by-case basis and may not minimize total actual work hours if the carrier normally cases the DPS and will not perform efficiently on the street. ( as stated previously, it takes time to establish a system for taking DPS to the streets )
-- As making the dispatch truck is not longer a big deal and delivery time for out going mail is slowing, maybe manglement doesn't really care - except for limiting office time.
-- Next next thing they will complain about is the increase in gas usage as the carrier sits by the mail box, going through the DPS with the motor running. ( then they will demand carriers turn off the motor while at the mail box and that will certainly lead to wear and tear on the starter! But hey, that is what they ordered )
-- Since manglement is trying to make rural carriers follow city carrier rules, ask for city carrier pay!
-- First of all, request ( demand ) in writing with a signature, an order to take DPS to the street.
-- When the complaints start that you are taking too long on the streets, laugh and say that you were doing what they ordered you to do. By all means, show me how to do better on the streets.
-- It takes TIME to work out a system for taking DPS to the streets. I did it for a time, but preferred casing everything. That way forwards and mis-sorted mail were dealt with before hitting the streets. Totally different set up for the LLV and POV. Probably the same could be said for the Metris.
-- On the plus side it should add lots of EOS time, which will get manglement complaining once again.
-- You might be able to head off ill feelings by showing manglement Step 4 ( C-14 ) ( aka the Galligan letter ), in part:
- The decision to carry DPS directly to the street should be made on a case-by-case basis and may not minimize total actual work hours if the carrier normally cases the DPS and will not perform efficiently on the street. ( as stated previously, it takes time to establish a system for taking DPS to the streets )
-- As making the dispatch truck is not longer a big deal and delivery time for out going mail is slowing, maybe manglement doesn't really care - except for limiting office time.
-- Next next thing they will complain about is the increase in gas usage as the carrier sits by the mail box, going through the DPS with the motor running. ( then they will demand carriers turn off the motor while at the mail box and that will certainly lead to wear and tear on the starter! But hey, that is what they ordered )
-- Since manglement is trying to make rural carriers follow city carrier rules, ask for city carrier pay!
MadDog
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Rrecs is the standard so I'm living with it the best i can.
I do have an issue with mini counts and daily data that includes rca scanner entries. I was just talking with my rca about the mini count, and his scanner entries, and learned that he has never entered authdismounts when servicing cbu's. I have 8 separate cbu stops, and each one is a minimum of 2 AD's, a couple are 3's and depending on the day sometimes 4's. He's been covering for 8 months!
Doesn't seem fair that his failures are cutting my pay, I'm 3min a week from next step! That's my rant!
I do have an issue with mini counts and daily data that includes rca scanner entries. I was just talking with my rca about the mini count, and his scanner entries, and learned that he has never entered authdismounts when servicing cbu's. I have 8 separate cbu stops, and each one is a minimum of 2 AD's, a couple are 3's and depending on the day sometimes 4's. He's been covering for 8 months!
Doesn't seem fair that his failures are cutting my pay, I'm 3min a week from next step! That's my rant!
In addition to @btdtret ammunition provided above, there is also this ;
jsthere723
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Yeah . Lot of people were talking about this for months now including me . I have Monday off . It’s effecting me good . Knowing this I try to mitigate that in my working days . But you can only do so much . There is no doubt relief day works little negatively unless you are one of those rare lucky one who is blessed with a jewel of a sub .
But I don’t pressure them . I just tell them once and that’s it . I take it as it is . Because RRECS is still way better than old system
LEFTINGUTTER
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this only works if you get DPS mail and not 5 trays of random mail
Voglio-il mio
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I just found this also!
Expedited to Street/Afternoon Sortation (ESAS)
FYI:
The documents linked below went to the field last week. The postal service is testing their new program called Expedited to Street/Afternoon Sortation (ESAS).
The stated purpose of this test is to determine if the current Expedited Preferential Mail (EPM) Delivery Program can be enhanced to assist in reducing the morning office time for city letter carriers by enabling them to get on the street earlier to better serve customers and provide for more consistent delivery times.
The test is scheduled to begin on July 25, 2020 and will continue for approximately 30 to 60 days. The test will be conducted in the offices listed on the attached document.
This test is meant to be a change for city carriers and clerks, however the changes in mail distribution will affect the rural carriers in these offices. We have had lengthy conversations with HQ Labor Relations, and we were assured that further communication would be sent to the field. We know there is already bad information in the field and some managers are already violating working rules, handbooks, and manuals. Below you will find some explanation and instruction from your National Board.
- This test is NOT a license to violate our contract, handbooks, manuals, or Step 4 Settlements.
- The offices in this test will have Distribution Up Times established. City carriers will not report until that time.
- City carriers will not be allowed to case mail in the mornings—this does not apply to rural routes.
- Rural Carriers must still be permitted to:
- Case their DPS Letters and Flats in the office at their option.
- Case boxholders at their option.
- Mark their parcels at the case.
- Pull down and tie out in the morning—not in the afternoon as will be required of city carriers.
- Rural carriers cannot be required to use the Load Truck Function for their parcels unless it was built into their evaluations (this is a very limited number of offices).
- Any change in starting times for rural carriers requires reasonable advance notice of the change. Carriers must be given reasonable time to plan for the schedule change.
- What management can change regarding rural carriers:
- They can establish an Expedited Preferential Mail office—this has been an option in the PO-603 for decades. This means that there is a definite cut-off time for mail distribution in the morning—established by management. Any mail distributed after that time will not be delivered. It will be cased in the afternoon for delivery the next day.
- They can make the mail available for rural carriers to case in the afternoon as mentioned above or they can allow rural carriers to come in earlier in the morning to case the mail that was distributed after DUT the day before.
- They have to do either a or b. They cannot tell carriers you cannot case mail in the PM AND you cannot come in before DUT in the morning. Time must be allowed for us to case mail—see #4 above.
- REPORTING VIOLATIONS: If any manager at any level in your District(s) orders or directs anything in violation of any of the above principals, you are to report immediately via email to your assigned District Representative:
- Name of Manager.
- Position of the manager (supervisor, postmaster, etc.).
- What exactly they changed.
- If the directive is in writing, provide a copy.
- If verbally made the change, provide the date of the change.
- We will immediately discuss these violations with USPS HQ and get it stopped.
Please report any of the above violations as soon as they happen and file a grievance if necessary.
Thank you all for your patience as we continue to go through these changes.
Your National Board
MadDog
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It wouldn't bother me that much if i wasn't 3 minutes short of a step increase. 3 minutes is 44 seconds a day. I would think that entering correct dismount information would have brought me into the higher step. Entitled money lost.
DB.Cooper
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I believe they have set the AI in RRECS to look for ways to bring peeps up just short of the next hour.... if you're close or just over, they take something away and short you.... it's all criminal, but it's not transparent enuf to prove anything.... and that's on purpose too... they're crooks....
jsthere723
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3 minutes! That’s close . You wouldn’t even believe how close I am to to next hour . 2 whole minutes!! But that’s okay . I believe I would fall to the low end of my evaluation this time around . Off course , I could have made about 1500 dollars more in 6 months already
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GarbageLLV
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The biggest plus I think about not casing your mail, is you will have more loading time. I also don’t mark my parcels and organize them at the truck which also adds loading time. We have a carrier that cases his entire route and marks his parcels every day and he has suffered from RRECS. I told him he should take his DPS to the street and not mark his parcels and he would gain another hour or two, but he isn’t comfortable with doing that. Now, should that affect your hours. No. But we have to take advantage of the system if the system is giving us opportunities to do so. I am not cheating the system at all. I just know how it works.
Marking doesn’t take long if you can remember multiple addresses for bigs. Smalls are easy if you mark put in order set on case. Mark as you finger thru them all ready in order. Those markers also add EoS time to put away and organize for the next day.
Truthfully I bring dps to street or case pending on my mood. Certain parts of route I will always case. Load time is roughly the same either way pending on parcel amount that day.
Bottom line each carrier does it how they feel comfortable. Some are willing and able to make changes others are not. I can guarantee route make up makes a far bigger impact. parcels to door then mark or not mark, case or not case does.
