Article 30 grievance

realroutecarrier

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Does anyone know what an article 30 grievance is? I can’t find it but I’m told that our office needs to file an article 30 grievance which should make management hire us some help? Is this right?
 

btdtret

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realroutecarrier -- " Does anyone know what an article 30 grievance is? I can’t find it but I’m told that our office needs to file an article 30 grievance which should make management hire us some help? "

-- Sounds like Article 30.2.A.2.

- The Employer SHALL make every effort to expeditiously fill leave replacement vacancies as they occur. Regular rural carriers SHALL have the right to require that a leave replacement be assigned to their route.

-- If no one is lining up at the door to be hired and the local manglement is not beating the bushes to flush out potential hirees, not much else to be done.

-- On the other hand, if manglement does somehow hire an RCA for every route, RCA's will most likely be looking for additional jobs as working one or two days a pay period is not going to meet today's family finances.

-- A happy median exists somewhere in between.
 

Rural Deviation

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As a local steward I filed an Class Action Art 30 grievance. I can’t remember if I settled it in the Step 1 discussion or it carried to the Step 1 meeting.

But through discussion with my postmaster we came to a settlement management wasn’t making the proper effort to hire. We worked out solutions of management doing a better effort to hire. At that moment in time I believe we had 5 subs. 2 5 & 1 aux carriers 3 RCAs available to cover the other 8 k routes in a 10 k route office.

The steps you want to make sure your office is doing are laid out in the requirements of hiring before an office can go formula.

Because of that settlement three months later when upper management said we were going formula we had a better negotiating platform in which to discuss because management had already admitted in writing they weren’t being efficient.

If your office has poor hiring record or you’re not able to keep subs an Art 30 grievance is worth your time. If mandated to go formula it can be helpful in the defense against formula.
 
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realroutecarrier

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I currently have a class action at step 2 for 17 120 Day Letters that lapsed. Now they need to post 17 PTF positions. My PM hates me.
I don’t understand what the problem is with hiring people! I wish I had the job of doing the hiring! I think someone should be just steady sending people into offices not waiting on a postmaster to do it! R they just lazy? What’s the problem??
 

Skierstmoritz

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Here in the northeast, $19 bucks an hr just doesn't cut it. On top of having to provide a pov no one in their right mind wants the job. Plus, no benefits! The grocery stores are paying $18-$19 to stock shelves , a union job with benefits and you get paid for every hour you work! What a novel concept! Plus a.c. in summer, heat and out of the snow in winter.
 

PastOThirty

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Here in the northeast, $19 bucks an hr just doesn't cut it. On top of having to provide a pov no one in their right mind wants the job. Plus, no benefits! The grocery stores are paying $18-$19 to stock shelves , a union job with benefits and you get paid for every hour you work! What a novel concept! Plus a.c. in summer, heat and out of the snow in winter.
Another anecdote is building trades. While the housing/construction sector continues to boom and boomers are continuing to exit the workforce, building trades are lucrative to anyone looking for a future career.
 

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in the last 6 weeks 4 RCA's hired in the last 2 weeks two have said screw it I am out of here and 1 more will walk or be asked to walk before next week is up manager was pissed 3 days and they haven't taken the whole route or amazon yet. Why would they stay when those that cannot do the job are judging them on a standard that in realty they cannot reach
 

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I currently have a class action at step 2 for 17 120 Day Letters that lapsed. Now they need to post 17 PTF positions. My PM hates me.
Why would they need to post 17 PTFs? You would have to have a minimum of 34 K-routes without Primary RCAs to cover that many PTF positions.
To cover that many 120-Day letters, there could be as little as 4 PTFs to be Compliant & each would have 4 or 5 routes on each String. Much easier & better to get less PTFs with more routes than More PTFs with less routes.
 

Haychica

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in the last 6 weeks 4 RCA's hired in the last 2 weeks two have said screw it I am out of here and 1 more will walk or be asked to walk before next week is up manager was pissed 3 days and they haven't taken the whole route or amazon yet. Why would they stay when those that cannot do the job are judging them on a standard that in realty they cannot reach
The last hiring blitz we had was about a year ago...only 1 guy showed up....and he always needs help, never takes a whole route out( even the small j routes) and has meltdowns almost daily...😴😔😔
 

jtcrapper

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Why would they need to post 17 PTFs? You would have to have a minimum of 34 K-routes without Primary RCAs to cover that many PTF positions.
To cover that many 120-Day letters, there could be as little as 4 PTFs to be Compliant & each would have 4 or 5 routes on each String. Much easier & better to get less PTFs with more routes than More PTFs with less routes.
our 2 ptf's call in 6 to 8 days a month only 4 routes each
 

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Same situation here i haven't had a sub in a year as of july filed the request for a sub ,,,nuthin called the union nuthin but they have no problem hiring clerks union tells me well with coronavirus things is slow why even have a academy you dont learn shit there so yea bring on 5 day work weeks
 

HardearnedTan

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Virus restrictions on sharing the same airspace have made trainings, and shadow days, ridiculously unproductive. Those RCA's who have come in under this mess and actually stay and try to carry a part of the route should be commended, encouraged, helped in any way possible, and given plenty of atta-boys by the regs who want a relief person to lean on. Yes, it's irritating when "I never got babied like this!" and "in my day, it was sink or swim, sweetheart, so suck it up!" is in the reg's bitter thoughts, but we don't have to EXPRESS those thoughts...c'mon, have a heart, help the little fledglings. NO disrespect intended to newbies or old, disgruntled regs!!!!
 
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