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Cut routes gained tons. Added routes lost a lot.

Sunofa said:
My route has the same boxes as yours but I have 37 cbus and 60 businesses with a dismount distance over 4000 ft. It was evaluated at almost 47.44 standard hours before and now 37.44. and you are at 49.27. Doesn't make sense, something isn't right. This is complete chaos.
Your street volume, parcels, office walk are all higher.
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Right ,I not change to my route 20yrand know change and know grow and came back ask 41k,I48k the count I was43j Don't make sense
 
Sunofa said:
My route has the same boxes as yours but I have 37 cbus and 60 businesses with a dismount distance over 4000 ft. It was evaluated at almost 47.44 standard hours before and now 37.44. and you are at 49.27. Doesn't make sense, something isn't right. This is complete chaos.
Your street volume, parcels, office walk are all higher.
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How you deput that
 
Twomoreyears said:
Our office had 10 overburdened routes that were cut down to 43ks and readjusted territory. A new full route and a small aux route were created from this. After the mail survey, 8 routes went up again and two went down. My route was one of the two routes that went down. (41K) Why? Well I believe it’s because so much was moved around from various routes to/from these two routes and the data transfer is incorrect. It doesn’t help that these routes have the highest CBU concentrations.

I called my ADR today to see if I could rebuild my route from the new aux created as a result of the route cuts. He told me that a potential agreement is in the works to keep any route that was recently cut to a 43K (and lost time after the mail survey) would maintain being a 43K for the next six months while the data transfer has time to correct. So there is hope if it pans out.

I’m also one of the carriers who signed for the high option but was given the low instead (12 1/2 years as a regular). Our ADR said if it’s not fixed by Oct 5th, to include that as a dispute. We have experience with this in the past with another route in our office and it essentially takes a phone call to the right person at district/payroll to flip the switch and correct it in a matter of days with a new 4241 printed as a 46J. I think
that phone call was made today on my behalf by my supervisor.

What a mess this whole RRECS system is. I’m lucky I’m within 2 years till retirement.
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My route have change for 20yr that how I be on know change
 
Offspeed said:
We had multiple routes that were cut from 48k to a 43K that came back overburdened . But its the next eval that will show the real numbers. And these routes should not be subject to another cut because the true eval will happened next eval. No double cutting.
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I was a cut route. I still came back the same. I was told that the package volume was for the entire year was still in the calculation. There wasn't any way to eliminate that number. Also, we were told, there would be no attempt at recouping any money paid to us. The next survey will show our real numbers and eval.
 
idelivermail said:
I was a cut route. I still came back the same. I was told that the package volume was for the entire year was still in the calculation. There wasn't any way to eliminate that number. Also, we were told, there would be no attempt at recouping any money paid to us. The next survey will show our real numbers and eval.
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They are all making assumptions and guessing. I've talked to 4 different people this week and have gotten 4 different guesses. No resolutions.
 
Sunofa said:
They are all making assumptions and guessing. I've talked to 4 different people this week and have gotten 4 different guesses. No resolutions.
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I can make my own guess, which seems very obvious. The donor route is still getting the credit. It wenrt right back up to where it was. Now why can't they go into the system tyhey use to cut routes and put it back to the new route where it was placed in July. They did it then and the pay earned reflected that. So why not now? USPS isn't going to pay 2 carriers for the same territory.
Funny thing is the carrier that went back up to a 48, is very tight lipped about it. He's always very nosy and vocal. Doesn't want to say a word even though he knows very well why his pay went up and mine went down. A significant number.
 
So that's where the problem likely lies. I have been getting 3 tubs passed off to me from the other routes for the last 3 months. Mangagement keeps telling me it takes a long time at the plant. No my route drops more than 11 standard hours and they are still not believing this could be part of the problem
 
Sunofa said:
So that's where the problem likely lies. I have been getting 3 tubs passed off to me from the other routes for the last 3 months. Mangagement keeps telling me it takes a long time at the plant. No my route drops more than 11 standard hours and they are still not believing this could be part of the problem
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Right ,I full clover for next day and didn't get supervisor divid and give to other route
 
Sunofa said:
So that's where the problem likely lies. I have been getting 3 tubs passed off to me from the other routes for the last 3 months. Mangagement keeps telling me it takes a long time at the plant. No my route drops more than 11 standard hours and they are still not believing this could be part of the problem
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Yes. I meant how long the bundles actually say the correct rural route on the bundle. One would think the bundled flats aren't getting credited correctly from the source.
This is a mess isn't it.

I do believe @jsthere723 is correct. Exempt for a year from mms on cut routes might just be the answer.

I am sad rrecs isn't set up the way it was intended.
Hope these tweeks after the fact will keep the evaluated system viable . 🤷‍♀️
 
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