Forced off on K day?

[Voglio-il mio]

Whether what you claim happens or not, the MOU on Regs assisting does NOT allow Regs to work in other offices & they cannot assist on their Relief Day.
Mgmt falsifying the payroll does not make it ok to play along with it. Falsifying is the only way for the PO to pay the Regular for either of those.

A Code 5 when working your relief day doesn't ask what office you are doing it in. The MOU allows the Corrupt USPS management to become creative.

Renewal of the MOU never should have happened!

Just saying!

By the way I agree with you, but it's happening! My office is fully staffed so it not in mine, but I know of others that will do whatever it take to get a relief day for their Carriers.

 

[Packager]

Just to piggyback on this thread: Can management split your route over working a regular signed to the RDWL?

Coming from a regular whose route was split in 5 (or 6?) yesterday. Yes, seriously.

 

[IDPOSTAL]

I'm sure that ALL SCANS were properly done too!! NOT

 

[gotstamps]

Just to piggyback on this thread: Can management split your route over working a regular signed to the RDWL?

Coming from a regular whose route was split in 5 (or 6?) yesterday. Yes, seriously.

Yes. I believe there is still a case in abeyance on that very subject so a grievance would likely be added to that stack.

 

[Packager]

Yes. I believe there is still a case in abeyance on that very subject so a grievance would likely be added to that stack.

So at what point does it exceed “on some occasions”?

 

[gotstamps]

So at what point does it exceed “on some occasions”?

That’s why the grievances are in abeyance.

 

[Offspeed]

How about regulars assisting in other delivery units after completing their routes. We have some big delivery units (3) under one postmaster hmm. BTW as to the original post. Remember if you come in on your relief day and bump your RCA off your route. The RCA must work another full route, not sone little bitty AUX.

 

[gotstamps]

How about regulars assisting in other delivery units after completing their routes. We have some big delivery units (3) under one postmaster hmm. BTW as to the original post. Remember if you come in on your relief day and bump your RCA off your route. The RCA must work another full route, not sone little bitty AUX.

The MOU states “in the office” so assisting in another Delivery Unit that is part of the same office would be allowed just as long as ALL available Leave Replacements and RDWL Regulars are already working in those DUs per Article 30.2.D.

 

[crazydoglady]

That would be insane to have a clerk do it. Not only could you file grievance for a clerk being utilized over an available regular, but the clerk could file grievance as well. Heck, I'd almost say let it happen just so both you and the clerk get paid grievance money.

It's so crazy to me. The clerk doesn't want to do it, but doesn't want to deal with the wrath of the pm. I can't remember what her position is, but it's the clerk position that's full time, Monday through Friday, and 8 hours a day. she's not even supposed to get overtime!

 

[hunchback]

If you are a new Regular, you cannot sign up on the RDWL yet. That’s only allowed twice a year; April & September.

What month on the calendar are you working on IN YOUR OFFICE?

 

[hunchback]

Can't resist: "Well in my office...."

 

[hunchback]

The MOU states .....

There could be a hundred more of these MOU's before we get a new contract and the wording of the MOU will be ignored on every one of them
The MOU states VOLUNTEER

 

[hunchback]

Thanks for the lifestyle advice, I would go fishing and sleep late if I weren't currently sleeping in my car. I'd rather have the money.

Remind the sycophants to add this to the long list of accomplishments the Union achieved through collective bargaining.
They of course will phrase this as "the union has enabled you to foster your love and appreciation of the great outdoors."

 

[hunchback]

That is the reason you're getting the day off. Because subs are available.

Before anyone insults the knowledge or intellect of the OP, just remember, as a result of the unions capitulation on the last contract some RCA from 49.999999 miles a way could be scheduled to run his K day at the last minute. The fact that he is not scheduled his K day does NOT mean they are a lucky (RARE) fully staffed office,
So if an RCA from 49.9999 miles shows up on a motorcycle for a POV route because noone bothered to communicate with the RCA what is expected, well then tell me how lucky the OP is

 

[gotstamps]

What month on the calendar are you working on IN YOUR OFFICE?

At the time of that posting, 4/4/25, we weren’t able to sign up for the RDWL. That opportunity started on Saturday, 4/12/25.
Maybe you should pay attention to the date of the posting of a comment before trying to be smart.

 

[gotstamps]

A Code 5 when working your relief day doesn't ask what office you are doing it in. The MOU allows the Corrupt USPS management to become creative.

Renewal of the MOU never should have happened!

Just saying!

By the way I agree with you, but it's happening! My office is fully staffed so it not in mine, but I know of others that will do whatever it take to get a relief day for their Carriers.

2 carriers cannot be assigned to the same route on the same day for Evaluation. Mgmt would have to fudge somebody’s time & it ain’t going to be the Regular Carrier since they have to be shown as working their own Assigned route on the Relief Day. Mgmt cannot pay 2 types of OT on the same day & cannot pay the MOU OT on the Relief Day.
Also, Working more hours on the assisting route than on your assigned route raises Red Flags with District.

 

[Voglio-il mio]

2 carriers cannot be assigned to the same route on the same day for Evaluation. Mgmt would have to fudge somebody’s time & it ain’t going to be the Regular Carrier since they have to be shown as working their own Assigned route on the Relief Day. Mgmt cannot pay 2 types of OT on the same day & cannot pay the MOU OT on the Relief Day.
Also, Working more hours on the assisting route than on your assigned route raises Red Flags with District.

I'm not making this up ------------------it is happening!

How they are doing it or what rules are being broken obviously doesn't bother them and never has in the past. When they break the Contract all they get is a slap on the wrist so when they need to do it again after a month or so they get the other wrist slapped.

By the way I'm aware of the rules in regards to time keeping.

 

[hunchback]

At the time of that posting, 4/4/25, we weren’t able to sign up for the RDWL. That opportunity started on Saturday, 4/12/25.
Maybe you should pay attention to the date of the posting of a comment before trying to be smart.

Perhaps you shouldn't have been so quick to call the OP a liar.
He said he signed the list.
So either they posted it early OR his definition of a NEW Regular isn't the same as yours.
For me less than a year is a new Regular.
Last I checked September was less than a year ago.
And this is April.
If the OP's Postmaster posts the overtime list the 1st of the month it's still better than those who never bother to post it at all.
I know it's always done right in your office, even though "you don't have enough management"

 

[gotstamps]

Perhaps you shouldn't have been so quick to call the OP a liar.
He said he signed the list.
So either they posted it early OR his definition of a NEW Regular isn't the same as yours.
For me less than a year is a new Regular.
Last I checked September was less than a year ago.
And this is April.
If the OP's Postmaster posts the overtime list the 1st of the month it's still better than those who never bother to post it at all.
I know it's always done right in your office, even though "you don't have enough management"

Well, then their mgmt kept a copy of the last blank posting from the September posting & used it since the email reminder had not been sent out at the 1st of April.
I did not call them a liar & I was not incorrect in what I had posted about when RDWL signups are. To get argumentative with your “what month are you in” BS was uncalled for. I didn’t assume anything but you sure did. I was just clarifying.
I also never said that everything is done right in my office but some Carriers do keep mgmt in check as does the Steward when needed.
Some days there aren’t enough mgmt to handle 60+ routes (city & rural) in my delivery unit plus the front desk & backend clerks. We have our fair share of cheaters & jerks that don’t care who they harm with their antics. There isn’t enough mgmt to watch everyone. This office stays busy at all hours.
I’m just glad that we can’t hear all of the Telecoms that have been going on for the last few weeks. The route adjustments & attempts to square up neighboring routes is running them ragged.

 

[hunchback]

There isn’t enough mgmt to watch everyone.

I'm afraid if you say that a third time bad things will happen, you know like saying Beatle Juice 3 times