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Just wondering how many carriers that were happy when RRECS was implemented are now singing a different tune. The more crap that keeps evolving from this debacle, the more I long for a short manual count, two minutes per mile, two minutes per box, etc. If only the Post Office would have treated Amazon office carriers fairly, but I digress.
 
I’m not happy with RReCS.

I’ve had to dispute every single MMS. It takes 3-5 months for corrections to be made by then we are just about to go through another survey.

It has too many issues for me to believe it is a fair and accurate assessment of our routes.
 
I’m not happy with RReCS.

I’ve had to dispute every single MMS. It takes 3-5 months for corrections to be made by then we are just about to go through another survey.

It has too many issues for me to believe it is a fair and accurate assessment of our routes.

Yeah and now look they want us carriers to pay back money from adjustments that were done incorrectly.

I'm sorry it is your system and your flaw. Can't take it back. Either it needs to scrapped and start over or fixed within 6 months.
 
All -- Be sure to send X-President Dwyer a Christmas card ( or not! )

-- If so, be sure to include comments regarding RRECS.

-- As usual, the rural carriers are the ones having to clean up another mess created by the USPS and the NRLCA.

-- Anyone bother to contact the "expert" engineers who apparently were not able to foresee the problems that have popped up since RRECS was implemented. Those engineers will most likely have distanced themselves from the system. Just like Arbitrator Clarke, who washed his hands of the project when Dwyer opted to sign a MOU with the USPS instead of giving Clarke the opportunity to create a new compensation system to replace the evaluated system Dwyer so loved.
 
Just wondering how many carriers that were happy when RRECS was implemented are now singing a different tune. The more crap that keeps evolving from this debacle, the more I long for a short manual count, two minutes per mile, two minutes per box, etc. If only the Post Office would have treated Amazon office carriers fairly, but I digress.

Personally very happy with it.

My route went from a 42H to a 48K. Similar with my entire office. We all went up.

The years under the old system working for free is what was really stupid.

RRECS is not perfect by a mile. But it is way better than the old system.
 
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Not happy at all.

The cheating from the system itself and the cheating from carriers to gain High K Rts (it doesn't take 1 hour to load every day, and 1 hour to clear at EOD everyday either.)

I'm now a low H, and these carriers are a High K and they get back the same time as I do and get paid more. I run a second trip and 40 mins later they are still there on EOD. They clearly get less volume then I do. How is this fair?

And no I will not stoop down to doing what they are doing as most would say here.
 
It's fine. Better than the old system, and fairly less opaque.

It does require an adjustment of mentality, though, where instead of getting paid for what you do, you need to focus on doing what you get paid for. It removes some of the incentives of the evaluated system.

Things were going to come to a head, eventually. Ghost town Amazon offices with a bunch of blown out 48Ks wasn't a sustainable model to maintain the 5 hour-a-day 46K offices.
 
Personally very happy with it.

My route went from a 42H to a 48K. Similar with my entire office. We all went up.
I’m going to argue that had your route been counted at anytime with the old system you would have gone up as well. The problem with the “old system” was they delayed counting routes for YEARS.

The years under the old system working for free is what was really stupid.

RRECS is not perfect by a mile. But it is way better than the old system.
Not doing a count was more the problem than the old count system.
 
I’m going to argue that had your route been counted at anytime with the old system you would have gone up as well. The problem with the “old system” was they delayed counting routes for YEARS.


Not doing a count was more the problem than the old count system.

That's what I dislike about these people with RRECS. Yeah if we did a count in 5 year span you would have gone up (maybe not as much as RRECS, but you would have gotten some of the money you deserve) Instead we didn't and then when COVID they argued the wrong thing on it, and we lost that step 4.
 
Just wondering how many carriers that were happy when RRECS was implemented are now singing a different tune. The more crap that keeps evolving from this debacle, the more I long for a short manual count, two minutes per mile, two minutes per box, etc. If only the Post Office would have treated Amazon office carriers fairly, but I digress.
I retired when RRECS was implemented.I could see the writing on the wall.Best decision I ever made.My take-home is more in retirement.
 
All -- Be sure to send X-President Dwyer a Christmas card ( or not! )

-- If so, be sure to include comments regarding RRECS.

-- As usual, the rural carriers are the ones having to clean up another mess created by the USPS and the NRLCA.

-- Anyone bother to contact the "expert" engineers who apparently were not able to foresee the problems that have popped up since RRECS was implemented. Those engineers will most likely have distanced themselves from the system. Just like Arbitrator Clarke, who washed his hands of the project when Dwyer opted to sign a MOU with the USPS instead of giving Clarke the opportunity to create a new compensation system to replace the evaluated system Dwyer so loved.
The Union still employs the engineer used on the panel.
 
I retired when RRECS was implemented.I could see the writing on the wall.Best decision I ever made.My take-home is more in retirement.
I noticed many others such as @Gotrope went at or near the same time as RRECS implementation... those in the know got the hail out....

Yeah, now that I'm not socking $$$$ money into TSP and so forth, I get more deposited into my checking account each month than when I was working.... :unsure:🤷‍♂️👉(y)
 
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