I heard a rumor today

Rt2mailman

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Cliff, have your steward request info on the bar codes. It will show receive time, "no access", then delivery by you on Monday. This is work left for you from Sunday, that means you didn't receive your compete relief day, and are owed for the work left for you.
Lost, UPS doesn't plan on leaving us anymore parcels. They are smart, so soon they will place a sur-charge on all their parcels for the "Christmas " period, which starts at Thanksgiving. That move will give the funds UPS wants with fewer parcels to carry/ handle. By the way that means we "USPS suckers" will be delivering all of those parcels for the same low, low, low price. Kinda sound's like the used car salesmen that the USPS upper managers are.
 

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Cliff, have your steward request info on the bar codes. It will show receive time, "no access", then delivery by you on Monday. This is work left for you from Sunday, that means you didn't receive your compete relief day, and are owed for the work left for you.
Lost, UPS doesn't plan on leaving us anymore parcels. They are smart, so soon they will place a sur-charge on all their parcels for the "Christmas " period, which starts at Thanksgiving. That move will give the funds UPS wants with fewer parcels to carry/ handle. By the way that means we "USPS suckers" will be delivering all of those parcels for the same low, low, low price. Kinda sound's like the used car salesmen that the USPS upper managers are.

You can use the USPS app to look up those bar codes.
 

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Rt2mailman, it isn't always about the price paid. Sometimes it is about capacity. All the delivery companies struggle to make on time delivery during the Christmas period. Multiply that by 10 because there will be big restrictions on the Black Friday store sales because of number of people allowed in the stores at one time, social distancing, etc. which will drive even more online shopping. If I am having to pay a surcharge on shipping during this time, that package better have on-time delivery. If they pass off the ones they just can't handle to the USPS, UPS can blame it on the postal service when the package is late. Plausible deniability. Even if the USPS didn't receive the package until it was officially late.
 

Rt2mailman

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It is about $. If a store will send out 100 products at a higher cost with UPS, they will turn to the USPS and pay less. If the USPS was as smart as UPS, we too would have a sur-charge for this rise in demand on shipping through us.
Supply and demand are basic economics that many of us learned in 7th grade, unless you are an upper postal manager.
 

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We had something come up on Saturday, should the Regular Carrier be paid for the full load of Amazon parcel left for her on Saturday because Amazon was running a little late? This would be very akin to Amazon being delivered to the Post Office on a Sunday and sitting there until delivery on Monday. I was always told we could be held one hour after our leave time listed on the 4240 for late incoming mail, all the Carriers waited the 20 minutes save the one RCA.
 

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We had something come up on Saturday, should the Regular Carrier be paid for the full load of Amazon parcel left for her on Saturday because Amazon was running a little late? This would be very akin to Amazon being delivered to the Post Office on a Sunday and sitting there until delivery on Monday. I was always told we could be held one hour after our leave time listed on the 4240 for late incoming mail, all the Carriers waited the 20 minutes save the one RCA.
Are you saying the truck arrived late on saturday and the regular had to deliver it on monday?
 

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Yes, rural runner that is what happened, but they called and they knew they were inroute but just 20 minutes late.
I was just asking in order to get an idea whether or not the clerks scanned the saturday packages for delivery the next business day. If it was scanned for delivery on monday, I would say that the carrier can't be paid for it. Sunday packages are scanned for delivery on sunday, which is why regulars can claim "not a full relief day" when they are still there on monday.
 

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UPS took over the amazon contract for my zip, so now we just started getting them ups sure post. They get big$ from amazon and we get cents......oh wait I dont get anything cause it wasnt in my count. The numbers of sure post amazon parcels are increasing daily
 

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Rural Runner et al -- " A painful reality check. I feel like Mike Tyson just punched me in the jaw. "

-- Get ready for another punch as Amazon Prime Day is 13 AND 14 October.

-- For a jab or two, some items are already on sale.
And for a later Tyson ear bite, I was reading that Amazon Black Friday deals would start earlier and last longer with non Prime Members in mind. Then Cyber Monday.
 

DB.Cooper

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UPS took over the amazon contract for my zip, so now we just started getting them ups sure post. They get big$ from amazon and we get cents......oh wait I dont get anything cause it wasnt in my count. The numbers of sure post amazon parcels are increasing daily
I can't believe Bezos is paying anybody well.... but, I can believe USPS is likely getting less than anybody else.... :confused:
 

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I'd hope our upper management wouldn't be so stupid, but it would not surprise me if it were true.

The rumor is this - UPS is going to start dumping THEIR amazon on us Saturdays for US to deliver on Sunday. As if we aren't already buried. Could they really be this blind to the predicament already being faced by subs? Would they really pile more on?

If it is, I am going to tell the supervisor straight up that they're all coming back no access. I ain't doing it. I'm at the end of my rope with managements idiocy.
IF it's true, this should be a clear alarm for the HIRING of parcel runner RCA's or RAC's to supplement regular carriers. The post office would win big time as they're much cheaper, no overtime etc.

Oh , sorry didn't mean to fall back on common sense again.
 

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IF it's true, this should be a clear alarm for the HIRING of parcel runner RCA's or RAC's to supplement regular carriers. The post office would win big time as they're much cheaper, no overtime etc.

Oh , sorry didn't mean to fall back on common sense again.
It surely makes sense.

Hence, as you said Old, management won't think that way.
 

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IF it's true, this should be a clear alarm for the HIRING of parcel runner RCA's or RAC's to supplement regular carriers. The post office would win big time as they're much cheaper, no overtime etc.

Oh , sorry didn't mean to fall back on common sense again.
We are 10/01/2020 tomorrow. With the USPS excellent hiring record, lol, there is no way parcel runners, rca's and / or RAC's can be hired fast enough.


And even if they are, to get trained and to stay. Many show up in office first day for ride along and....poof....gone the next day.


No one hired here in over a year. 23 days until regular retires. 2 rca's that have full time jobs that can work little, if any, during the week. Other rca will be filling in as regular retires.

Grim.
 

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We are 10/01/2020 tomorrow. With the USPS excellent hiring record, lol, there is no way parcel runners, rca's and / or RAC's can be hired fast enough.


And even if they are, to get trained and to stay. Many show up in office first day for ride along and....poof....gone the next day.


No one hired here in over a year. 23 days until regular retires. 2 rca's that have full time jobs that can work little, if any, during the week. Other rca will be filling in as regular retires.

Grim.
IF we start the hiring process NOW perhaps a single RCA would be in place by June for vacations next year. At least that's my perception of the speed of a SLOW snail the hiring guru's move at. IF at all.
 
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