Lady Carrier
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You are talking about riffling time that would go in column R. The standard under RRECS I was commenting on is the time it takes to verify the address. The 86 per minute is to read the address and determine if it gets delivered there or goes elsewhere.When we checked our DPS in the office to verify the addresses, we were told to not check every address but go through a tray in general (every few inches) and check for mass errors such as bundles of other routes mail or big amounts of missorts or other errors that may have been caused by such things as sweeping errors. We were told it should not take us more than a few seconds per tray, which we argued over each count. Some counts we were able to get 10-15 seconds per tray. This was just a general check (AKA riffling time) and not the same as going through the letters on the route. Is that what they were talking about? Has anyone had the assoc. clarify exactly what the new standards mean? Maybe West Coast Rural had a point in that we need to look at the whole forest instead of just one tree. We need further discussion and explanation from the assoc. also. We need to see how this new system is going to effect our routes as a whole and not just throw it out because of one or two misunderstood standards. I looked at RRECS as the best thing that could happen to us in years. Getting the right times for the things we do and getting paid for all (or at least most) of the things we do.
15 mins/425 pieces = .0353 mins per piece / 60 seconds = 5.88 seconds per piece RRECS standard .0116/60 seconds = 1.93 seconds per piece to verify the address. That is assuming a DPS tray has 425 letters in it.Average DPS tray is 425. 425 (DPS pcs) / 86 (RRECS DPS PPM factor) =4.9411 min to sort a tray.
If we use the average of 15 min per DPS tray to sort and case correctly.... 15 (min) X 60 (SEC) = 900 seconds.... 900 (secs) / 425 (pcs DPS tray) = 2.117 secs per DPS piece.
Current values for DPS. POV 30 pcs per min. LLV 43pcs per min.
Using the 2.117 secs figured above.
POV... 30 (pcs per min) x 2.117 (secs) = 63.51 seconds
LLV.... 43 (pcs per min) x 2.117 (secs) = 91.03 seconds
I was thrilled at first about no more L status but delving deeper... 17 secs (box credit under RRECS) X 6 (days)=1.42 min per box. That box time factor is mighty close to current L route status. If the rumors are true that we will only be credited for boxes we stop at on a yearly computation a potential bigger loss.
Windindaface used 15 mins to sort and case correctly and came up with 2.117 secs per piece, but the RRECS standard is to verify the address only.
We need to go thru DPS and just verify the address, no sorting, no casing, just verifying (it should be correct so we wouldn't actually be reading line for line the whole address, just glancing and determining yes that is the correct address or no it it not), then time how long it takes and divide by how many letters are in that tray to get a more accurate time.
I agree with WestCoastRural, the mailbox time includes the time it takes to open the box, put in the mail, and shut the box. We are supposed to be able to gather DPS, flats, SPRs in one hand and put in mailbox in one motion.I found your missing time. It’s been hiding in plain sight......your mailbox. Under RRECS we are paid actual time to do the work. With RRECS we are given 1.42 minutes to open and close the mailbox 6 times a week. Thats too much time. We probably use 6 seconds to open and close a mailbox. The same applies to ncbu.
Since we are based on actual performance, we pretty much lost all of our box time. It’s probably easier on the eyes that dps went down.