RollinRural
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Here are the numbers put out by renfro
NALC and USPS reach tentative agreement
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So what happens if the letter carriers reject the proposed contract? It may be really embarrassing to take the subservient position for a contract that not only is not ours but was voted down.
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Viewpoint: Fellow Letter Carriers, Stand Together and Vote No on Sellout Contract!
Viewpoint: Fellow Letter Carriers, Stand Together and Vote No on Sellout Contract!
City letter carriers finally got to see the headlines of the tentative agreement Letter Carriers (NALC) President Brian Renfroe has negotiated—after more than 500 days of working without a contract and being kept completely in the dark about the state of bargaining. Vote No Campaign Kick-Off The...
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NorthernPines
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The sad thing, is that this is a grossly inappropriate representation of relative wage increases.
It includes step increases in percentile increases, which unduly inflates numbers, and hides lower than market percentile increases within the aforementioned step increases.
To be mathematically honest, you'd compare mirrored step to step to advertise the actual negotiated contractual wage increase, not roll in step increases in a deceptive chart that could be deciphered by anyone who has taken a stats course.
U caught my attention
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How are they analyzing them for them to loose 13 mins per day of office time? That's a little over 1 hour per week. They are guaranteed an 8 hour day. Aren't they just shifting those 13 mins into street time? It's not like their base pay will change if they can drag out an additional 13 mins each day on the street. I suppose their morning volumes will calculate to an hour less per week chipping away at potential OT.
They need to be careful with throwing this blindly into arbitration. Maybe they will come out of arbitration without a need for cca's.
Do more in less time.....sounds familiar....
They need to be careful with throwing this blindly into arbitration. Maybe they will come out of arbitration without a need for cca's.
Do more in less time.....sounds familiar....
Yeah put the step raises in to make it look better. So what happens to people at top? Their raise isn't nearly as much as low end. Twisting of words to make it look better.
Yep I am waiting to see what happens with this. This is starting to sound like they want own version of RRECS with them, but maybe it won't take 12 years and actually won't have the flaws ours has.
RollinRural
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They invoked article 10 to get renfroe out. Here’s the whole story.
Alcoholism, DUI, kkk supporter, using union funds to stay at the Ritz, also a college drop out
Very interesting stuff…
Alcoholism, DUI, kkk supporter, using union funds to stay at the Ritz, also a college drop out
Very interesting stuff…
They kinda' already did / do with TIAREAPS .
NALC and Postal Service agree on TIAREAP extension until May 31
NALC and the Postal Service have agreed to an extension of the joint route evaluation and adjustment process until May 31, 2024.
MildlyInfuriated
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This is impressive for about 30 seconds till you realize they included the step increases as a part of the percentages. Without the 1000 to top step it wouldn’t even be on par with inflation. This contract is a joke, and ours will most likely be worse
MadDog
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Every company with salaried employees does!
They kinda' already did / do with TIAREAPS .
NALC and Postal Service agree on TIAREAP extension until May 31
NALC and the Postal Service have agreed to an extension of the joint route evaluation and adjustment process until May 31, 2024.www.nalc.org
I know they have but haven't done it to everyone. That's where I am comparing to RRECS. It will be 12 years before it goes to everyone.
U caught my attention
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My family and friends that are salary still have to fill out their weekly work hour report. They make over$100k. They log time spent with clients. Also time spent in office vs remote. It's about accountability and production. Neither would put forth additional hours. OT is off the table, but bonuses are a possibility.
Here's something else for thoughts.
I was talking to few city side. I asked them if this contract was done say month or 2 after it expired if they would have been fine with. Most said they wouldn't like it but would favor it more than after year and half of waiting for it.
I was talking to few city side. I asked them if this contract was done say month or 2 after it expired if they would have been fine with. Most said they wouldn't like it but would favor it more than after year and half of waiting for it.
Every city carrier in my office is disgusted, and to a man are voting no.
It already started without the flaws. Their menu was shaded out when a choice was made. They started with the menu it took nrlca 5 years to receive. They also have an agreement that scanner entries can't be disciplined.They kinda' already did / do with TIAREAPS .
NALC and Postal Service agree on TIAREAP extension until May 31
NALC and the Postal Service have agreed to an extension of the joint route evaluation and adjustment process until May 31, 2024.
Shush you! Most of the DR's can't do math and haven't figured this out yet. Don't spoil the fun...
I know. They were using it in my office. I'm also pretty sure that the City side has a different contractor for their scanner "stuff" than the Rural side has.
jsthere723
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Right . With this kind of math , any union can come out of negotiations with no yearly raise still can claim that they have negotiated for 10%+ raise over 4 years for most of the craft .
I've talked to quite a few carriers. I asked them couple of questions about it.
#1 I asked if this contract was agreed say a month or two after your contract expired, what would you think? Most said that while they wouldn't like it, they would view it more favorable than they do now. Most are upset that 500+ days and this is all you got????
Then you just try to lie using a person step raise in your equation to say, you will be 20% raise. What a joke.
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