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NRLCA Mini Survey Info is posted

Just learned today that safety talk time will not be counted during the survey. Values will come from rmss which is supposed to be entered daily. Hoping that everyones supe or pm has them up to date or you will lose that time.
Well, those talks BETTER be recorded during the MMS. Just because we are having a mini count does not disqualify service / safety talk time. Now, with regard to RMSS, yes, times should have been recorded daily as actual time.
 
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intentional misconduct,, or malfeasance,, or : intentional tort this one is the one to use in a court of law...

fact is: this was nation wide and just plain disgusting of our employer to pull off... and just as disgusting that our union sits on its thumbs
I absolutely agree with u , Still first Class !!
 
Make sure the aux gets DPS<400 credit
Well let me tell you a funny story.

The AUX route did get credit. That's good.

My route did not. I had nearly 70 days worth of DPS<400. I documented every single one, with the dates, the totals, and the comprehensive guide section explaining how we should be credited in my dispute.

Months later I get the dispute back "NO ACTION TAKEN."

I contact my DR, who handled all of the disputes and signed off on this one, and she told me that my evaluation was correct and it is automatically added. She said it was just so small that I might not notice. I told her that the spot on the 4241m under CASE DPS LETTERS had a ZERO in it. She said that didn't matter. She said it was worked into other places. I told her that the AUX had a number in that spot and it was like 70 minutes.

I sent her the info of a DR just one state over that DID win this dispute and got carriers credited. She said that it was a different district and a different USPS manager and they must have allowed it. After I pushed back on that and emailed Shirley Baffa, who did not reply, she sent back an email saying that there is a national level dispute because the USPS is claiming that we need to have <400 pieces each day for an entire week to get credit. I said that is BS and sent the Comprehensive Guide section once again.

I asked, "if this is an issue Nationally, where they are ignoring the Guide, shouldn't it be a class action grievance? No response.

So, to recap: I got denied credit for almost 70 days of DPS<400. I was told by the DR that signed off on all the disputes "NO ACTION" that I was wrong. I pressed the issue. The DR finally found out that there was a National issue....too bad she signed off for everyone in my district. Shirley Baffa refuses to help. Now I get no response asking if it should be a class action grievance.

Nothing changes....
 
Well let me tell you a funny story.

The AUX route did get credit. That's good.

My route did not. I had nearly 70 days worth of DPS<400. I documented every single one, with the dates, the totals, and the comprehensive guide section explaining how we should be credited in my dispute.

Months later I get the dispute back "NO ACTION TAKEN."

I contact my DR, who handled all of the disputes and signed off on this one, and she told me that my evaluation was correct and it is automatically added. She said it was just so small that I might not notice. I told her that the spot on the 4241m under CASE DPS LETTERS had a ZERO in it. She said that didn't matter. She said it was worked into other places. I told her that the AUX had a number in that spot and it was like 70 minutes.

I sent her the info of a DR just one state over that DID win this dispute and got carriers credited. She said that it was a different district and a different USPS manager and they must have allowed it. After I pushed back on that and emailed Shirley Baffa, who did not reply, she sent back an email saying that there is a national level dispute because the USPS is claiming that we need to have <400 pieces each day for an entire week to get credit. I said that is BS and sent the Comprehensive Guide section once again.

I asked, "if this is an issue Nationally, where they are ignoring the Guide, shouldn't it be a class action grievance? No response.

So, to recap: I got denied credit for almost 70 days of DPS<400. I was told by the DR that signed off on all the disputes "NO ACTION" that I was wrong. I pressed the issue. The DR finally found out that there was a National issue....too bad she signed off for everyone in my district. Shirley Baffa refuses to help. Now I get no response asking if it should be a class action grievance.

Nothing changes....
Have you ever heard of the National Labor Board? It’s a place where employees file charges against unions representatives who fail to provide fair representation. You make the charge, they do the rest.
Shirley Baffa will respond then.
 
Have you ever heard of the National Labor Board? It’s a place where employees file charges against unions representatives who fail to provide fair representation. You make the charge, they do the rest.
Shirley Baffa will respond then.
I have heard of the NRLB. Pretty much every time I read about it on here or on the Facebook group, the opinion is the same. They don't do anything.

I also wouldn't be shocked if I filed with the NRLB, if I started getting "random" safety observations. Weird how that works. The first 2 grievances I filed resulted in a safety van following me the following week. Those are the only two times I've had a safety van follow me in over 15 years.
 
I have heard of the NRLB. Pretty much every time I read about it on here or on the Facebook group, the opinion is the same. They don't do anything.

I also wouldn't be shocked if I filed with the NRLB, if I started getting "random" safety observations. Weird how that works. The first 2 grievances I filed resulted in a safety van following me the following week. Those are the only two times I've had a safety van follow me in over 15 years.
Old PM used to follow me all the time for days on end after every grievance. New one hasn’t, but all the sups are running rural or city routes everyday 😂. PM runs city routes 🤷‍♂️
 
Well let me tell you a funny story.

The AUX route did get credit. That's good.

My route did not. I had nearly 70 days worth of DPS<400. I documented every single one, with the dates, the totals, and the comprehensive guide section explaining how we should be credited in my dispute.

Months later I get the dispute back "NO ACTION TAKEN."

I contact my DR, who handled all of the disputes and signed off on this one, and she told me that my evaluation was correct and it is automatically added. She said it was just so small that I might not notice. I told her that the spot on the 4241m under CASE DPS LETTERS had a ZERO in it. She said that didn't matter. She said it was worked into other places. I told her that the AUX had a number in that spot and it was like 70 minutes.

I sent her the info of a DR just one state over that DID win this dispute and got carriers credited. She said that it was a different district and a different USPS manager and they must have allowed it. After I pushed back on that and emailed Shirley Baffa, who did not reply, she sent back an email saying that there is a national level dispute because the USPS is claiming that we need to have <400 pieces each day for an entire week to get credit. I said that is BS and sent the Comprehensive Guide section once again.

I asked, "if this is an issue Nationally, where they are ignoring the Guide, shouldn't it be a class action grievance? No response.

So, to recap: I got denied credit for almost 70 days of DPS<400. I was told by the DR that signed off on all the disputes "NO ACTION" that I was wrong. I pressed the issue. The DR finally found out that there was a National issue....too bad she signed off for everyone in my district. Shirley Baffa refuses to help. Now I get no response asking if it should be a class action grievance.

Nothing changes....
We had the same issue after switching from segmented to DPS. We all got 'No Action.'
 
Well let me tell you a funny story.

The AUX route did get credit. That's good.

My route did not. I had nearly 70 days worth of DPS<400. I documented every single one, with the dates, the totals, and the comprehensive guide section explaining how we should be credited in my dispute.

Months later I get the dispute back "NO ACTION TAKEN."

I contact my DR, who handled all of the disputes and signed off on this one, and she told me that my evaluation was correct and it is automatically added. She said it was just so small that I might not notice. I told her that the spot on the 4241m under CASE DPS LETTERS had a ZERO in it. She said that didn't matter. She said it was worked into other places. I told her that the AUX had a number in that spot and it was like 70 minutes.

I sent her the info of a DR just one state over that DID win this dispute and got carriers credited. She said that it was a different district and a different USPS manager and they must have allowed it. After I pushed back on that and emailed Shirley Baffa, who did not reply, she sent back an email saying that there is a national level dispute because the USPS is claiming that we need to have <400 pieces each day for an entire week to get credit. I said that is BS and sent the Comprehensive Guide section once again.

I asked, "if this is an issue Nationally, where they are ignoring the Guide, shouldn't it be a class action grievance? No response.

So, to recap: I got denied credit for almost 70 days of DPS<400. I was told by the DR that signed off on all the disputes "NO ACTION" that I was wrong. I pressed the issue. The DR finally found out that there was a National issue....too bad she signed off for everyone in my district. Shirley Baffa refuses to help. Now I get no response asking if it should be a class action grievance.

Nothing changes....
This is why I resigned. Hostile work environment was just added incentive.
 
Well let me tell you a funny story.

The AUX route did get credit. That's good.

My route did not. I had nearly 70 days worth of DPS<400. I documented every single one, with the dates, the totals, and the comprehensive guide section explaining how we should be credited in my dispute.

Months later I get the dispute back "NO ACTION TAKEN."

I contact my DR, who handled all of the disputes and signed off on this one, and she told me that my evaluation was correct and it is automatically added. She said it was just so small that I might not notice. I told her that the spot on the 4241m under CASE DPS LETTERS had a ZERO in it. She said that didn't matter. She said it was worked into other places. I told her that the AUX had a number in that spot and it was like 70 minutes.

I sent her the info of a DR just one state over that DID win this dispute and got carriers credited. She said that it was a different district and a different USPS manager and they must have allowed it. After I pushed back on that and emailed Shirley Baffa, who did not reply, she sent back an email saying that there is a national level dispute because the USPS is claiming that we need to have <400 pieces each day for an entire week to get credit. I said that is BS and sent the Comprehensive Guide section once again.

I asked, "if this is an issue Nationally, where they are ignoring the Guide, shouldn't it be a class action grievance? No response.

So, to recap: I got denied credit for almost 70 days of DPS<400. I was told by the DR that signed off on all the disputes "NO ACTION" that I was wrong. I pressed the issue. The DR finally found out that there was a National issue....too bad she signed off for everyone in my district. Shirley Baffa refuses to help. Now I get no response asking if it should be a class action grievance.

Nothing changes....
Unfortunately I believe that it has to happen during the MMS. 400 or less during the MMS and it would count towards your daily RAW mail. Just another loophole in RRECS.
 
Unfortunately I believe that it has to happen during the MMS. 400 or less during the MMS and it would count towards your daily RAW mail. Just another loophole in RRECS.

Shocking yet we the carriers don't get to know this stuff til they don't things.

This place is like a snowball going downhill.
 
Thank you for your response. I am 5 years from retiring and have 19 years in. I might not have provided a reason for not signing----although I can not really remember ....although I might have said something about the tremendous amount of raw mail that I clean out of my dps on a daily basis (nor was I ever asked to give one). I am not pursuing a greivance over the results of the count and sending it to the area steward. I am not participating in the farce......nor am I checking my numbers against their numbers. Again, I am not participating in the farce. Mgt did what it was not supposed to do.....the mail was supposed to be counted. Oooh what a shocker!! So no, I am not certifying the mail count form to be correct. BTW, I NEVER EVER sign to certify mail counts.....PERIOD. I dropped to a 44K in 2018 then got boosted back to a 45K in Feb 2023, because of the mapping and the cheating in the 2018 count then fell to a 41K w RRECS so I qualify for the J option. Yes, I really worked to stay on my extra scans.....I have CBUs and dismounts. I am at peace w my new eval and planned to take high option. So I signed the 2080 commit....and I have never been a 2080 problem. I also checked the box for high option. My 4241A came back and it reads 41K. For no reason except that it does. I m going down to the PO at 10 am, Monday morning and will be filing a grievance (I keep extra ps form 50s and grievance forms in a file for just such an emergency). Do you think I can make them fix it?
Good luck with that
 
"Misc this, misc that, other...you must give a reason why we must accept it."

Wow! Engineered study and we're still dealing with misc bs.

Since it has to go up for approval, that means they have a list of what is, and isn't accepted. Which means there aren't misc items, they just don't want us knowing all the activities we get credit for.
I would suggest communicating with you union REP more and coming to a conclusion of what is allowed to be allocated to MISCELLANEOUS time.
 
This! It’s the fact none of us can validate anything. We’re supposed to just “trust” the PO. But it’s in the PO interest to pay us as little as possible so that’s a clear conflict of interest.

Unless the NRLCA is planning a last minute grievance or NLRB complaint. But can those stop something from being implemented on such short notice?

The way I see it, there’s 3 potential ways this goes.

1. The USPS, has the data and shared the data with the union, and the union just didn’t tell us. Which would probably open the NRLCA up to a NLRB complaint by its members.

2. The USPS, has the data and didn’t share it with the union. Which would definitely look bad on the USPS behalf and would definitely open themselves up to a grievance or NLRB complaint. This would also bring the validity of the data into question if the USPS simply didn’t share it.

3. The USPS doesn’t actually have the data, and the NRLCA either knows or doesn’t know this. Which would definitely bring the validity of RRECS into contest. This would also shine negatively on the union for not pushing the issue.

Either way at least one of the parties here has dropped the ball massively. If it states data will be accessible to the carrier, and this doesn’t occur certainly this is a violation. All it would take is for people to file grievances over their October route evaluation and when the data isn’t there to support it welp the whole thing falls apart.
The data is all there. I'm not sure what you mean? I've gotten a years worth of RRECS implementations, management post RADAR reports on a basis manner, and I can recall my inputs to read in conjunction. The data is there, and management can't touch most of it. That is how the engineers (who were only there by arbitration) designed it. My thoughts.
 
The data is all there. I'm not sure what you mean? I've gotten a years worth of RRECS implementations, management post RADAR reports on a basis manner, and I can recall my inputs to read in conjunction. The data is there, and management can't touch most of it. That is how the engineers (who were only there by arbitration) designed it. My thoughts.
That post is over 2 years old…
 
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