oig report, normally in other thread...but good info....

charlie

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.... see chart attached from report risc-wp-20-008 package delivery...please go to oig website and read this report...
laugh at the average packages they think we do....then see the figures they also show for income etc....
....let's just say we average $300 a day income times 6 days is $1800 per week times 50 weeks is $94,000 income per rural rout per year just on packages.....ya think our union knows these figures? hell no.
.....best laugh is usps admitted they under pay us because hey are scared that reccs will boost expenses- meaning-they have to pay us for what we do...laugh that they think reccs will be here in a year...
I'm retired but still looking out for us. no longer a union member.....feel free to bring these numbers to union and aske why union allows us to be screwed and union does nothing.....these are usps's numbers and statements.. Damn union...
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Gotrope

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So mgmt agrees, as soon as rrecs is implemented, they need more neighborhood parcel lockers.😂
Significant increases in heavier, larger last mile items to USPS. Usp and fedex are surcharging for larger items they are off loading go usps. Rrecs is 1 year out 🙄. Parcels are costing significant labor time and money to complete routes. But, only according to OIG - I'm sure your mgr still thinks you're slugging.
 

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Very interesting. And so much of this is just common sense items that are the kind of things the new PMG should have made a big deal of working on instead of just making a statement about "no more OT". I did have to laugh about the Next Generation mailboxes. Haven't seen a single one of those but it hasn't been too many years ago when lots of the new plastic PMG approved mailboxes that are smaller than the standard metal ones started showing up in bulk on my route. I never understood then why that size was ever "approved"? I also liked how they talked so much about the problem of USPS accepting all of these super large, bulky parcels. Amazon does NOT have to abide by size, girth limits. A couple of days ago a route received two parcels that were bigger than anything I had seen before. Not sure what they were but the clerks did say they were light. But the size.... they actually looked like they were a box that you would ship a casket in. And not a small casket but one for someone who is extra large. Clerks weren't even sure if an empty LLV would hold both boxes at the same time. Postal service really needs to smarten up and think about these things.
 

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Ok, hope I'm not just dense, so I want to run thru a few things.

So, a medium density route averages 82 packages per day? Even in 2019 that seems low. Still, the revenue for that is roughly $3 per box. Also low if you think of it. I'm sure UPS is at least double that.
 

Windindaface

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Had a chuckle over the Next Generation mail box. An item mentioned many moons ago to improve our efficiency. Years later the standard size box is still an available off the shelf purchase with the next generation near by at a higher price. UMMM... They will purchase the cheaper version +90% of the time as long it is available on the shelf or on line.

Also no mention of a mandate for the customers to replace the standard size box they now have. Or a mention the Machine will purchase them for those customers if it becomes a mandate.

JS... As a former carpenter/still doing side work on old home remodels/projects. Many things are "Grandfathered" in when it came to newer building codes. I will venture and say it will apply to current standard size boxes until it rots off the post/ or a 1767 is generated by the carrier.
 

Gotrope

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One thing you need to remember. The number of pkgs they used only includes pkgs taken to the door because that is what was being studied. They really don't care how many pkg's we scan each day.
Also, they included city data. City routes are typically less deliveries than rural routes. Also, typically closer to box than rural delivery. I did love that it takes city carriers on average 1.35 minutes to go to the door. But, we get 10 seconds. Nice of them to highlight our benevolence. So, whoo hoo! We are 8 times as efficient. Enjoy that at the bank.
 

Windindaface

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I’m averaging about 240 packages a day right now. Does that make my route extra extra high density? I’m not seeing that category in the chart. 🤔

I think they are referring to L routes. 12 or more boxes per mile. I am an L and take the time hit. 15.5 boxes per mile. My CBU delivery points are under 70.

My scans have doubled daily after the Stimulus check insanity spike in purchases hand out and my last count. Was I counted this time around? No.

I hope there will be one last National hard count to establish our true EVAL with former time credits if/before the RRECS beast is unleashed. If RRECS is unleashed you will see some AUX runs vaporize. :p
 

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I think they are referring to L routes. 12 or more boxes per mile. I am an L and take the time hit. 15.5 boxes per mile. My CBU delivery points are under 70.

My scans have doubled daily after the Stimulus check insanity spike in purchases hand out and my last count. Was I counted this time around? No.

I hope there will be one last National hard count to establish our true EVAL with former time credits if/before the RRECS beast is unleashed. If RRECS is unleashed you will see some AUX runs vaporize. :p

Please!! For the love of all that is holy, please not another mail count!! I went full time 3 years ago and have gone through a mail count each year. Enough is enough!! HAHAHAHA
 

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I hope there will be one last National hard count to establish our true EVAL with former time credits if/before the RRECS beast is unleashed. If RRECS is unleashed you will see some AUX runs vaporize. :p
According to the latest OIG report posted by @charlie , the USPS thinks we (craft) will come out ahead on RRECS for parcel delivery.***
(What does the NRLCA think? This is information they have been hiding from us.

***Edited to include fact pointed out in post #19 below by @FrozenToes . (Thanks for the help. )
 
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Itstillfun

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According to the latest OIG report posted by @charlie , the USPS thinks we (craft) will come out ahead on RRECS.
(What does the NRLCA think? This is information they have been hiding from us.
Way to represent. Draggin feet to save USPS. Squeeze the rural craft while destroying health of the rural peeps while padding their own comfy cushions. Union knows all about the abuse including the rigged count. They got each other's back while condoning the ongoing never ending b.s. yank those covers off the big bed. Transparency
 

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According to the latest OIG report posted by @charlie , the USPS thinks we (craft) will come out ahead on RRECS.
(What does the NRLCA think? This is information they have been hiding from us.
I haven't read the entire document yet.
I have yet to see where it says rurals will come out ahead with RRECS. It say rurals will gain with parcels. Average of 41 minutes a day. There are many other time factors.
Regarding the union saying the data was flawed. I noticed this " The Rural Route Evaluated Compensation System (RRECS) will use parcel scan data to determine how many packages were delivered to the door on a given day and compensate the carrier accordingly. "
Which scan data acceptance, distribution or delivery? How accurate?
 

Rt2mailman

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Frozen, delivery of course, which other scan would tell if it is at the door or not. The current scanner is accurate within 8 feet (most of the time). This is the reason many of us have been saying, "Scan at the delivery point", and not in the vehicle.
I think many of us bring all the parcels that the customer is receiving that day to the door. That includes smalls that will fit in the box. By that RRECS has credited us with many more door deliveries. This maybe one way to get back all of that time that has been stolen from us due to manipulated counts over our careers.
 
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