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Route adjustments and creation of new routes under RRECS

They didn’t have to do anything. They Effed it all up. This MOU is garbage. 2 wrongs to try to make a right. How about hiring software writers who know what they’re doing. This union is unbelievably stupid. I had no idea it was this bad.
There is no two wrong . There is only one wrong. And they rectified it . If data would have transferred with the address as it was supposed to nobody would have felt anything . MMS result would have come out close to 43k ( give or take an hour ) for both routes , not completely lopsided
 
I was a 43K and he was a 44K. So now we are both 48’s, post office magically makes us 43’s and steals our data and money for a year? Criminal
Exactly, post office will continue to cut every route now and never pay people for their past 6-12 months of data.
Playing musical chairs with times and shuffling routes every mms.
 
I’m glad you’re glad. Btw, the route that received my territory from our adjustment, also came back a 48K after this mms. So who wins? Post office, due to theft
There has to be a reason for that route to come back as 48k . Without knowing the complete picture I cannot comment. Probably they also donated to some other route . In most cases ( almost all ) donor came back overburdened again ( without territory) but recipient route reverted back to J or H route holding the territory
 
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There has to be reason for that route to come back as 48k . Without knowing the complete picture I cannot comment. Probably they also donated to some other route . In most cases ( almost all ) donor came back overburdened again ( without territory) but recipient route reverted back to J or H route
Maybe somewhere, but not in our office. All donor and recipient routes went up after last mms. Pure volume in our area, not exaggerating. So now we all get stolen from in my office? This blanket criminal Mou doesn’t work for everyone, just for the post office
 
Maybe somewhere, but not in our office. All donor and recipient routes went up after last mms. Pure volume in our area, not exaggerating. So now we all get stolen from in my office? This blanket criminal Mou doesn’t work for everyone, just for the post office
Not true . Point is . Is everyone donor also or not . Is there anybody in your office only a recipient? And what was his/ her evaluation before the adjustments? How many routes we are talking about ? What was the Amazon situation before and after ? There is completely understandable reason behind what you are claiming. There was completely separate dynamic was at play at the same time . Nothing to do with theft by post office
 
But if actual volume increases created the 48k, then according to the mou the route volume gets an improper reduction. They revert back to the paper eval. This negates the volume increase that occurred outside of the territory transfer.
It did not . Not that much . from H, J to 48k !! The argument is only academic . No relation with reality . Not in 6 months . Yes . Even completely new Amazon will not manifest in 4/5/6 months . Yes in rare cases where new Amazon plus new territories from donation will be quite a bit off with lock . But exception is not rule . There has to be something else at play . I heard some offices people are doing 2/3 hrs load time , hour EOS . Nobody paying attention yet . That’s one scenario. Bottom line something else going on .
 
Exactly, post office will continue to cut every route now and never pay people for their past 6-12 months of data.
Playing musical chairs with times and shuffling routes every mms.
Sadly this is a very high IQ post. The union just signed an mou that destroys the craft forever.
Routes will be ‘squared up’ periodically, as they have said in the recent past, thereby locking up routes indefinitely. Routes will be cut and decimated and never allowed to increase. This wasnt the arbitrator’s intention. The union screwed up completely by negotiating poorly and giving away everything and basically ruining rrecs with one MOU. They never seem to look beyond what’s in front of them and can’t foresee what the negative impacts might be.
Might be better off not having a union at all at this point. This was such a devastating mou, I’m likely cancelling my dues from this…
 
Sadly this is a very high IQ post. The union just signed an mou that destroys the craft forever.
Routes will be ‘squared up’ periodically, as they have said in the recent past, thereby locking up routes indefinitely. Routes will be cut and decimated and never allowed to increase. This wasnt the arbitrator’s intention. The union screwed up completely by negotiating poorly and giving away everything and basically ruining rrecs with one MOU. They never seem to look beyond what’s in front of them and can’t foresee what the negative impacts might be.
Might be better off not having a union at all at this point. This was such a devastating mou, I’m likely cancelling my dues from this…
Squaring up is not under this mou . Only ADJUSTMENTS . Giving up and gaining equal delivery is wash or near wash
 
Sadly this is a very high IQ post. The union just signed an mou that destroys the craft forever.
Routes will be ‘squared up’ periodically, as they have said in the recent past, thereby locking up routes indefinitely. Routes will be cut and decimated and never allowed to increase. This wasnt the arbitrator’s intention. The union screwed up completely by negotiating poorly and giving away everything and basically ruining rrecs with one MOU. They never seem to look beyond what’s in front of them and can’t foresee what the negative impacts might be.
Might be better off not having a union at all at this point. This was such a devastating mou, I’m likely cancelling my dues from this…
Did you read the mou ? I guess not . It explicitly states that the locking up evaluation is not applicable to realignments, squaring up .
 
Squaring up means giving up territory and receiving territory; which means it’s a “territorial adjustment”
Wait and see
It’s officially Over for this craft
Maston destroyed it because he’s a, I won’t say it…
No . Explicitly states . Receiving part and donating part both will have 52 week history . It’s a wash or near wash . Any address with less than 52 weeks history will be in locked state wherever it is . They will not participate in any squaring up
 
"we screwed up, you owe us money." - the USPS.

"Now get to work, those Christmas packages won't deliver themselves. Except some of it will be free labor because again, you pay us to work now."
 
No . Explicitly states . Receiving part and donating part both will have 52 week history . It’s a wash or near wash . Any address with less than 52 weeks history will be in locked state wherever it is . They will not participate in any squaring up
The point is: currently both donor and receiving routes are locked for 52 weeks. When they become unlocked they can be cut (if overburdened) or squared up/realigned. They will then be subject to ANOTHER 52 week lock. This can go on in perpetuity thanks to this horrible mou.
 
The point is: currently both donor and receiving routes are locked for 52 weeks. When they become unlocked they can be cut (if overburdened) or squared up/realigned. They will then be subject to ANOTHER 52 week lock. This can go on in perpetuity thanks to this horrible mou.
No . Locking up is not applicable to realignment or squaring up .it is explicitly stated . They can square up . But it will not create a new lock up situation . 43k becoming overburdened is a pipe dream ( unless there is some rare unusual circumstances) . These are all academic exercise just to argue
 
No . Locking up is not applicable to realignment or squaring up .it is explicitly stated . They can square up . But it will not create a new lock up situation . 43k becoming overburdened is a pipe dream ( unless there is some rare unusual circumstances) . These are all academic exercise just to argue
The key phrases in the mou that USPS will use to abuse whatever the original intent was are: "territorial route adjustment", "all impacted routes, regardless of the amount of the adjustment". There's plenty of weaseling possible here, and c'mon, you know the USPS will do it and the NRLCA will give the shocked Pikachu face and file a grievance (solely to keep up appearances) that they know they can't win.

Always expect the worst, and even then the NRLCA still somehow manages to exceed that.
 
It is no different than old evaluated system where we used to get evaluated every couple of years . No . RRECS was not supposed to work this way . As advertised data was supposed to transfer as adjustment happens. Nobody would have felt treated disparate if they could have stored data by address ( if they had that capacity) not by route . It would have been seamless. But since they store data by route they had to resort to old system whenever adjustments takes place and route gets locked for data collection ( 52 week ) period
Been reading through your post(s) and your explanation about what an evaluation system means and it makes more sense to me now. The previous 52 week’s data is just a method to estimate what a route is evaluated at now. When a route is cut, the 52 weeks of data is not established yet for what has left (donated) and/or what has been gained by a route. So the routes need a new 52 week period to collect the new information. And this is where RRECS is flawed. Like what was said earlier, the amount of cloud space to store address specific information was too large so RRECS does the data by route instead. And when a route is adjusted, it takes 52 weeks to correct itself.

For my overburdened route, a whole wing was cut off last August and was given to another route. Then a smaller amount was donated back to me by another overburdened to adjust me to an estimated 43K. After the Oct MMS, now I’m a 41K. But by this MOU, it will put me back up to a 43K for 52 weeks while it collects new data after the adjustment. It’s not a perfect system but it makes more sense now.
 
somehow, the post office will win, just like deliver everything everyday IE monday is flooded on purpose and we the workers lost on that mou,the post office is sneaky and crafty , our union has no foresight, and the post office always has a plan , that the union cant seem to see, they are like a deer in headlights, just wait for it , it wont be good in the long run.
 
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