Time Scrutiny (carrier?)

[InvisableVibes]

For the past two weeks we have been under a microscope as management looks for "time-wasting" actions. Casing, loading, office time, street time, etc... are getting tweaked at every turn. Sure, a tidbit of time is shaved here and there. That is all good, but I see other areas that could help as well that aren't being addressed (if possible). I have houses on my route that do not get package delivery either by specific request or for being too far from the mailbox.

Do any of you know a way, within the mail delivery system, where we can mark these addresses so these packages do not even get in our cages, pumpkins?

Each morning, I spend time writing up a dozen or more packages that go to undeliverable houses for delivery. It would be very timesaving if these did not even make it this far to me. Can we put something in the edit book that tells distribution either to pass it on to UPS or some other delivery service? Or possibly have the first arrival scan inform the Clerks to put the package aside for pickup? This would also save us time.

Any other "administrative" things we can do to cut out such time-wasting practices?

 

[gotstamps]

So… you do not want credit for any of those packages much less the Leave Notice credit for each?

No, thanks!

 

[stillfirstclass]

Any other "administrative" things we can do to cut out such time-wasting practices?
put stamps on the counter where customers line up, place them directly under a sign that says free... look at all the hours that would shave off

 

[Shannonboy]

For the past two weeks we have been under a microscope as management looks for "time-wasting" actions. Casing, loading, office time, street time, etc... are getting tweaked at every turn. Sure, a tidbit of time is shaved here and there. That is all good, but I see other areas that could help as well that aren't being addressed (if possible). I have houses on my route that do not get package delivery either by specific request or for being too far from the mailbox.

Do any of you know a way, within the mail delivery system, where we can mark these addresses so these packages do not even get in our cages, pumpkins?

Each morning, I spend time writing up a dozen or more packages that go to undeliverable houses for delivery. It would be very timesaving if these did not even make it this far to me. Can we put something in the edit book that tells distribution either to pass it on to UPS or some other delivery service? Or possibly have the first arrival scan inform the Clerks to put the package aside for pickup? This would also save us time.

Any other "administrative" things we can do to cut out such time-wasting practices?

Ummmmmmm....that would be a big fat NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

 

[Shannonboy]

Maybe dont show up for work.....thatll help save time.

 

[ibd1]

Well, we could cut out that 10 to 15 minute meeting we have at the beginning of our shift. But it we do this, I do not know if I'm smart enough to wear my seatbelt or not back up or but on my parking brake or to perform my SPM scans or to make sure that I stand where I stand.

 

[RFD]

For the past two weeks we have been under a microscope as management looks for "time-wasting" actions. Casing, loading, office time, street time, etc... are getting tweaked at every turn. Sure, a tidbit of time is shaved here and there. That is all good, but I see other areas that could help as well that aren't being addressed (if possible). I have houses on my route that do not get package delivery either by specific request or for being too far from the mailbox.

Do any of you know a way, within the mail delivery system, where we can mark these addresses so these packages do not even get in our cages, pumpkins?

Each morning, I spend time writing up a dozen or more packages that go to undeliverable houses for delivery. It would be very timesaving if these did not even make it this far to me. Can we put something in the edit book that tells distribution either to pass it on to UPS or some other delivery service? Or possibly have the first arrival scan inform the Clerks to put the package aside for pickup? This would also save us time.

Any other "administrative" things we can do to cut out such time-wasting practices?

We just throw those type of packages in a separate pumpkin for the clerks to deal with, no muss, no fuss. In other words, if the package is in that, it's not ours. Suggest that to management , instead of wasting time like you are describing. As far as the street time, load time, etc. tell them to pound sand. We are not paid hourly.

 

[gotstamps]

Well, we could cut out that 10 to 15 minute meeting we have at the beginning of our shift. But it we do this, I do not know if I'm smart enough to wear my seatbelt or not back up or but on my parking brake or to perform my SPM scans or to make sure that I stand where I stand.

That’s part of the Evaluation. No, thank you. I’d rather keep that time in my evaluation.

 

[gotstamps]

We just throw those type of packages in a separate pumpkin for the clerks to deal with, no muss, no fuss. In other words, if the package is in that, it's not ours. Suggest that to management , instead of wasting time like you are describing. As far as the street time, load time, etc. tell them to pound sand. We are not paid hourly.

Parcels are a big part of the Evaluation. I’d rather keep handling the packages than to lose that time from my evaluation.
How can you throw Left Notice pkgs in a hamper without writing out the notice & scanning as such? Give up these tasks (our job) and mgmt will find a way to deduct it out of our Eval.

 

[U caught my attention]

This would also save us time.

Any other "administrative" things we can do to cut out such time-wasting practices?[]Postal Tees[/]

Why are you looking to get out of doing work?
You are doing the work at the wrong time. The packages go to the street and get scanned on the street, then get handled in EOS. Integrity scan at the gps location is how I understand (a past mpoo order...all pkg get taken to street and scanned at address)
As far as I am aware we provide delivery service from box to package delivery location. There is no threshold to cause a customer to have to come and pick up pkgs because the drive to the delivery location is too far. We give that service.

Just curious why are you not being alliwed to provide that service on your route?

 

[Rt2mailman]

For the past two weeks we have been under a microscope as management looks for "time-wasting" actions. Casing, loading, office time, street time, etc... are getting tweaked at every turn. Sure, a tidbit of time is shaved here and there. That is all good, but I see other areas that could help as well that aren't being addressed (if possible). I have houses on my route that do not get package delivery either by specific request or for being too far from the mailbox.

Do any of you know a way, within the mail delivery system, where we can mark these addresses so these packages do not even get in our cages, pumpkins?

Each morning, I spend time writing up a dozen or more packages that go to undeliverable houses for delivery. It would be very timesaving if these did not even make it this far to me. Can we put something in the edit book that tells distribution either to pass it on to UPS or some other delivery service? Or possibly have the first arrival scan inform the Clerks to put the package aside for pickup? This would also save us time.

Any other "administrative" things we can do to cut out such time-wasting practices?

To answer your question there is a spot on your edit sheet on the far right where you can mark a "D" for door not available. Supposedly Amazon won't send packages to those addresses, but they often do anyway..
The only reason I can imagine a carrier would want to do that is on a pov route where there was a tremendous extra amount of unpaid mileage going up to those houses.
Under Rrecs we're paid the time to drive to the door in a pov ( not mileage) or government vehicle, so why not deliver all of them? The Contract says carriers can NOT be REQUIRED to deliver beyond 1/2 mile, but doesn't say WE can't do it.

 

[Haygrrl]

To answer your question there is a spot on your edit sheet on the far right where you can mark a "D" for door not available. Supposedly Amazon won't send packages to those addresses, but they often do anyway..
The only reason I can imagine a carrier would want to do that is on a pov route where there was a tremendous extra amount of unpaid mileage going up to those houses.
Under Rrecs we're paid the time to drive to the door in a pov ( not mileage) or government vehicle, so why not deliver all of them? The Contract says carriers can NOT be REQUIRED to deliver beyond 1/2 mile, but doesn't say WE can't do it.

Exactly

 

[InvisableVibes]

Have you ever come to the point when you ask yourself, "Why do they do it like this?", or "How it's being done doesn't make any sense?". Your co-worker always replies, "Yep, This is the USPS. Nothing makes sense around here." It's the same realization every new-hire gets soon after starting.

Have you ever pulled up to a house the same time as UPS---he runs out with a tiny, mailbox sized package, and you unload a bulky microwave? Does anyone know what they are doing? It's like chicken with their heads cut off!

Ucaught (post above) mentioned taking all packages the clerks bring to you in the morning to the street and doing the processing (L/N, holds, etc...) bringing them all back to get credit during EOS. I will check into this but what a mess that would be. Do you have to fight with all of the non-deliverable packages all day? (I would have 10-20 pkgs each day bumping around in my van). and a second trip

It occurs to me that many of you see Time Wasting Practices as potential boosts to your Rrecs numbers. Is it crazy to have a system where it benefits it's workers to act inefficiently for the sake of taking longer? This creates intention to manipulate your actions for the means to increase your salary. You slithery snakes.

I like doing my work, but the energy it takes for me to maintain this level of ignorance is growing, felt, and apparently supported. Thanks. The new Law of the land. The constant battle over the collection and interpretation of Rrecs data.

 

[Shannonboy]

The Contract says carriers can NOT be REQUIRED to deliver beyond 1/2 mile, but doesn't say WE can't do it.

Had a coworker do that over an extended period of time.....this really hot customer begged, and pleaded for the carrier to drive 3 extra miles to her Summer house by the lake to deliver her packages. One Christmas she was down for two weeks, he was delivering packages to her house like usual....OVER THE HALF MILE MARK..
and guess what roads were slicker than crap, slid off the road, wrecked, and got fired. I saw his notice of removal, and the main thing they/po mgmt focused on was his going beyond the half mile point. I tried to help him, with grievances, and show that other folks were doing the same thing, but NOPE....the pm fired him, and made it stick....the union rep was actively supporting the pm on this, we tried to get rep removed for failure to represent, no luck though. nrlca totally failed that guy.....so if you think rt2mailmans advice is good here, I'd think again, and, I wouldnt do it. Your better off to get em a medical dismount, and have the additional mileage added to your route, or something along those lines...

 

[stillfirstclass]

Had a coworker do that over an extended period of time.....this really hot customer begged, and pleaded for the carrier to drive 3 extra miles to her Summer house by the lake to deliver her packages. One Christmas she was down for two weeks, he was delivering packages to her house like usual....OVER THE HALF MILE MARK..
and guess what roads were slicker than crap, slid off the road, wrecked, and got fired. I saw his notice of removal, and the main thing they/po mgmt focused on was his going beyond the half mile point. I tried to help him, with grievances, and show that other folks were doing the same thing, but NOPE....the pm fired him, and made it stick....the union rep was actively supporting the pm on this, we tried to get rep removed for failure to represent, no luck though. nrlca totally failed that guy.....so if you think rt2mailmans advice is good here, I'd think again, and, I wouldnt do it. Your better off to get em a medical dismount, and have the additional mileage added to your route, or something along those lines...

spot on... saw the same thing in mi

 

[Old Fart]

For the past two weeks we have been under a microscope as management looks for "time-wasting" actions. Casing, loading, office time, street time, etc... are getting tweaked at every turn. Sure, a tidbit of time is shaved here and there. That is all good, but I see other areas that could help as well that aren't being addressed (if possible). I have houses on my route that do not get package delivery either by specific request or for being too far from the mailbox.

Do any of you know a way, within the mail delivery system, where we can mark these addresses so these packages do not even get in our cages, pumpkins?

Each morning, I spend time writing up a dozen or more packages that go to undeliverable houses for delivery. It would be very timesaving if these did not even make it this far to me. Can we put something in the edit book that tells distribution either to pass it on to UPS or some other delivery service? Or possibly have the first arrival scan inform the Clerks to put the package aside for pickup? This would also save us time.

Any other "administrative" things we can do to cut out such time-wasting practices?

Those aren't time wasting practices, they're post office policies that we are required to perform. And we get credit for those tasks, as it should be.

 

[U caught my attention]

Do you have to fight with all of the non-deliverable packages all day? (I would have 10-20 pkgs each day bumping around in my van). and a second trip

I have gov vehicle, so no, I dont fight the non deliverable.
Sorry, I forget the issues pov face. I googled ps form 4232 Rural Customer Delivery Instructions. I now see about the 1/2 mile issue. What we were ordered to do likely wouldnt work with a pov. I will shutup about that now

I have only one customer with somewhere around a 1/2 mile (maybe a little more or less....not sure). I assume dpm would show the distance. I deliver to them, no one has ever said anything to me about it. They have a pretty decent heavy country box so most things fit.
They are American cattle farmers.
Hardworking family run business

 

[U caught my attention]

I remember when rrecs first started we could scan pkgs undeliverable during load veh at the PO. We could put them where they go during load veh and write up a slip if we needed during that time. They took that ability away a long time ago. I dont think there is a standard to give the route the volume for handling such things other than during EOS now. Heck, when I scan something at the address, I dont even know if that gets counted in my daily parcel total as parcel volume handled. I scan either attempted (I read once somewhere "attempted" is supposed to give credit, but I cant verify that it does) I might scan under the forward section. Does forwarding get credited as parcel volume handled ?
As far as I am aware, we have no way to know how the system credits parcels each day anyways and that's a whole other issue.

 

[eunomios]

I remember when rrecs first started we could scan pkgs undeliverable during load veh at the PO....

It is curious that they took scan ability when the scanner switches to a mode that pays "Actual Time" - Yet when we clock out to break on RRECS the ability to user the scanner for work stays intact during this "Unpaid Time".

 

[U caught my attention]

Maybe we need a new standard pre-route admin time (PRAT) actual time in the morning we do admin tasks before servicing route. "PRAT" could potentially lessen EOS because getting forms and stamp stock etc could be done earlier than during EOS.