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Rural Deviation

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Thought of the morning:

If all routes nationwide were set at a 40k and the yearly salary was bump up to match that of the city carriers…

Would that have a negative or positive affect to the craft and the struggles it deals with each day?
 
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PastOThirty

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Hi it would foster, or incite discussion of fairness for work differences.

A lot of carriers would pull out the “get good” and be “efficient”, and they “paid their dues” (even if they were never a dues paying member to defend their cushy situation.

Others would demonstrate they carry the water to a blind eye, and describe toils and tribulations to a deaf ear on the ways the “agreed to but claimed as engineered standard” is most statistically not applicable, where the pre and post condition qualification of statistical control is completely absent.

The thought of equal pay and equal work would expose the truly heavy lifters and the scammers. And while the thought of hourly with a guarantee excites me, and wouldn’t harm those allowed to cling to piecework, they, the pieceworkers know piecework is forever broken, but feel we need to somehow “balance” the inequality/inequity they benefit from on the young; maybe to either excuse their windfall, and to avoid appropriate scrutiny. 🤷‍♂️
 

btdtret

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Rural Deviation -- "Thought of the morning: If all routes nationwide were set at a 40k and the yearly salary was bump up to match that of the city carriers…

Would that have a negative or positive benefit to the craft and the struggles it deals with each day?

-- Interesting thought!

-- Might get the NALC to thinking of a merger with the NRLCA?

-- Doubt if the USPS would go for it because of the amount of new regular carriers needed for the new routes and at a ( much ) higher salary. Maybe the NGDV would finally be ready for assignment to the new routes!

-- There would still be a need for RCAs to fill in for regulars when they take annual or sick leave.

- Manglement could end up saying: "You want a day off? Then find someone to fill in!"

- Which recreates the good old days when most post offices were well-stocked with RCAs -- RCAs could not survive on one day a week here or there, so would look for other part- or full-time jobs.

- Current PTFs might not care for the idea although they'd be first in line for the new route openings.

-- If limited to 40K, what happens to routes that have growth?

- Manglement lops off sections for AUX routes, until there is enough to create a new full time route?

-- In any case, keep thinking up new possibilities!
 

Mail Escort

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Thought of the morning:

If all routes nationwide were set at a 40k and the yearly salary was bump up to match that of the city carriers…

Would that have a negative or positive affect to the craft and the struggles it deals with each day?
We would need a lot more vehicles. Don’t have enough now. All those cuts would add up to many many more routes.
 

Gotrope

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I believe he means equal pay at 40 k status across the board. OT would elevate pay.
Current yearly salary and hourly pay is significantly higher on city side than rural.
Current step 12 table one is $67161 for rurals at 40 hours.
Nalc top step old tier is $71347 at 40 hours.
 
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She mails rural

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Our city carriers make a average of 115, 000 a year. They are the ones on the overtime list. 2 extra hours a day some days. So by doing 40 hours for us would have to come with a huge hourly wage because I can't run my rt in 40 a week I'm lucky to do it in 50 and working 6 days is even more hours, and we don't get paid overtime anything pass 40 hours. So for me hourly would have to be huge or ot for anything over 40 hours would have to be ago. Now if we had rcas to run the excess of 40 on ours rts would be ok too but hourly would still have to be real nice.
 

43 months

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I found out I make a lot more being an efficient rural carrier with an incentive.
I get a lot of OT though and that helps boost my wage.
Let's pray that incentive doesn't get squashed with Rrecs.
 

43 months

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I believe he means equal pay at 40 k status across the board. OT would elevate pay.
Current yearly salary and hourly pay is significantly higher on city side than rural.
Current step 12 table one is $67161 for rurals at 40 hours.
Nalc top step old tier is $71347 at 40 hours.
Yeah, I get it.
I just figured what step I am on City and figured my wage up til this point like I am 40 hour city carrier. Adding in OT. I don't know at what point they get double time, so I had to leave that calculation out.
I will make more than a City Carrier in my step.

They never let our city carriers get OT and forget penalty time.

I just have to say, their table two blows too.

I do like the idea of consistent pay and consistent hours. I might be able to give up OT for that; if there was an initial boost in pay to even us out.

Guess I would have to learn how to drag out my day.
 
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43 months

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Hmmmm. After all that I said, I am now wondering....maybe it is better to be city and not have to work as hard or long in the day for the $$$$?
I have to think about this, we might just be the joke.
 

PastOThirty

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My nearby metro (and suburban office’s) max o/t everyday. And have for years. Of course they do this in part because it is much easier and more prevalent to get an 8 hour work restriction to protect your mental health, thus forcing the employer to contend with the reality that they are very bad at their jobs: managing and deterring volatility instead of dumping it on those that can’t protect themselves, like rural carriers and “part-timers”.
 
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