NRLCA Reaches Tentative Agreement with USPS for Three-Year Contract

[Ruralinfo]

The National Rural Letter Carriers’ Association and the United States Postal Service have negotiated a Tentative Agreement to cover the three-year period from May 21, 2024 to May 20, 2027. This Tentative Agreement must be ratified by a majority of the voting membership of the NRLCA to become effective. A more detailed explanation of the ... Read more

 

[ATCBigE]

I didn't think we would that much worse than city carrier, but this is GOD AWFUL

 

[Ruralinfo]

I am a little late getting this posted everyone. Sorry about that, I've been at the hospital all day while my husband had surgery. It's been a heck of a day and we just got home, but I agree @ATCBigE it does look awful

 

[Gotrope]

I am a little late getting this posted everyone. Sorry about that, I've been at the hospital all day while my husband had surgery. It's been a heck of a day and we just got home, but I agree @ATCBigE it does look awful

The language is a big step up over last several contracts. Some items have been corrected that really needed updates.
The $ was always going to suck for Federal game.

 

[calimailman]

I am a little late getting this posted everyone. Sorry about that, I've been at the hospital all day while my husband had surgery. It's been a heck of a day and we just got home, but I agree @ATCBigE it does look awful

I just read the"highlights" of the new contract proposal and can't say i'm surprised.

Look at this press release:
[The Postal Service and the National Rural Letter Carriers’ Association (NRLCA) have reached a tentative negotiated agreement.

Upon ratification by the union membership, which will take several weeks, the agreement will run through May 20, 2027.

“This agreement is ECONOMICALLY RESPONSIBLE]
Here's the link USPS, NRLCA reach tentative agreement – USPS Employee News

The highlights are it's horrible for everyone, but still favors table one over table 2 albeit in a minuscule way.

This union is broken broken broken. Think about it. We are paying every pay period for these geniuses at the union and they just rubber stamp what USPS management says and we are supposed to accept it.

I'm losing $10k a year next month and i'm supposed to jump up and down about a 1%cola on table 2 annually.

Get bent. If anyone says getting cut is in the contract so be it. That's what the members voted for in the past and it's codified.
Guess what you voted for a bad contract.

Hard no here. Go to arbitration

 

[calimailman]

I am a little late getting this posted everyone. Sorry about that, I've been at the hospital all day while my husband had surgery. It's been a heck of a day and we just got home, but I agree @ATCBigE it does look awful

I apologize for my rant down below, but I hope your husband is ok.
I hop he heals up soon and healthy.

 

[Gotrope]

I just read the"highlights" of the new contract proposal and can't say i'm surprised.

Look at this press release:
[The Postal Service and the National Rural Letter Carriers’ Association (NRLCA) have reached a tentative negotiated agreement.

Upon ratification by the union membership, which will take several weeks, the agreement will run through May 20, 2027.

“This agreement is ECONOMICALLY RESPONSIBLE]
Here's the link USPS, NRLCA reach tentative agreement – USPS Employee News

The highlights are it's horrible for everyone, but still favors table one over table 2 albeit in a minuscule way.

This union is broken broken broken. Think about it. We are paying every pay period for these geniuses at the union and they just rubber stamp what USPS management says and we are supposed to accept it.

I'm losing $10k a year next month and i'm supposed to jump up and down about a 1%cola on table 2 annually.

Get bent. If anyone says getting cut is in the contract so be it. That's what the members voted for in the past and it's codified.
Guess what you voted for a bad contract.

Hard no here. Go to arbitration

If the paying members vote it down, it may go there. It's must be voted upon to be ratified. If you are not a working member, you don't get a vote.

 

[calimailman]

If the paying members vote it down, it may go there. It's must be voted upon to be ratified. If you are not a working member, you don't get a vote.

That's what i'm complaining about. My wife and I do pay. We do vote. No

 

[Surprise!]

I am retired so the upcoming contract is none of my business thankfully.

I find I no longer have the motivation to read about the proposed future contract. I expect it to be more of the same.

I also suspect that the leadership of the NRLCA only has one interest they are willing to fight for themselves.

 

[U caught my attention]

Voting YES!!!
THANK YOU!
Will we be doing zoom meetings or in person meetings to discuss these issues in the states?
I will bring my reasons for my yes vote there.

 

[oi veh.]

Voting YES!!!
THANK YOU!
Will we be doing zoom meetings or in person meetings to discuss these issues in the states?
I will bring my reasons for my yes vote there.

i believe that the release said that most will be in conjunction with state conventions. a national officer is always in attendance at those.

 

[Beanut]

Still not going to retain RCAs, without guaranteeing a day off or promising career after 2 yrs. We will never keep RCAs.

I’m tired of training them. Last one didn’t last 3 days. I train another this month. I hope they stay at least a year.

 

[btdtret]

All -- A tip of the hat to "Ruralinfo" for soldiering on despite personal problems to keep the members informed.

-- Regarding the tentative contract -- "The NRLCA National Board unanimously believes the Tentative Agreement is fair and reasonable and is in the best interests of the 131,000 hardworking rural letter carriers across the country."

- details: probably more good items than not so good - which is usual in any contract the NRLCA has "negotiated".

-- My concern would be calling the contract "fair" as not a good indicator. At least based upon the USPS standards of: poor / fair / good / excellent / outstanding / stellar.

-- Old timers might remember then-President Pitts called the 2006 tentative contract excellent. However, the membership didn't think the same and voted it down ( handily ), leading to arbitration. Arbitrator Fishgold was not happy that the APWU and the NPMHU signed their contract offers while the NRLCA did not. He also told the parties that there would not be any significant changes to the "basic economic terms" of the proposed contract. So the membership got pretty much what was in the tentative agreement.

-- At least the NRLCA has joined the other unions in allowing career members to sell back 40 hours of annual leave.

-- Still needs wording that provides for COLA even when a contract has expired ( JMHO ) as carriers are still working. Arbitrator Clarke put in a mail count for 2016 for the 2012-2015 contract.

-- Retroactive COLA - probably paid as "administratively practicable". RCA's may have to wait 180 days on their increases.

-- As a disclaimer, I've been out a l-o-n-g, so don't really have a horse in this race.

 

[Unclewolverine]

Screw the added rhd incentive. It's really a pittance, and far too hard to get anyway. Increase the ema. Auto parts are way more than they used to be and only going to get worse; insurance is skyrocketing; and shop labor is usually $100+ an hour now.

 

[NorthernPines]

From a sense of pure verbiage, it's an improved contract over what we currently have. However, in my estimation, it still falls short for new hire retention, career workforce growth, penalties for overwork etc., that even the other postal unions have attained.

From a compensatory sense, it also falls well short of what would be required to incentivize the hiring, and retention, of high quality, qualified employees, in relation to the private sector in many locales. I'll be voting no, but I don't anticipate that any arbitrator would grant financial concessions after Renfroe raked the NALC over the coals in an alcohol induced haze.

 

[calimailman]

Screw the added rhd incentive. It's really a pittance, and far too hard to get anyway. Increase the ema. Auto parts are way more than they used to be and only going to get worse; insurance is skyrocketing; and shop labor is usually $100+ an hour now.

I sympathize with any carrier who has a POV and didn't realize what your financial "incentives" were. Totally agree with increasing ema for those carriers.

From outside looking in it's frankly a slap in the face with inflation and all costs going up.

Our office is going to make an 4 hour AUX route POV soon.
Gee I wonder how many of the remaining RCA's we have are going to jump at the opportunity to deliver rural boxes from the left hand side and be the express runner 6 days a week.

I'm a no vote fully recognizing an arbitrator won't make it better. It's what it is.

 

[ATCBigE]

The issue with our union is they are so hard headed and have their head up where the sun don't shine, we are so far behind to make them even close to where they should be.

I.E. EMA rate, vehicle incentive (while it made great jump still should be a lot more).

They wait them be like look 200% increase when in reality had they be slowly increase it throughout time it would be far greater than it is now

 

[Gotrope]

The issue with our union is they are so hard headed and have their head up where the sun don't shine, we are so far behind to make them even close to where they should be.

I.E. EMA rate, vehicle incentive (while it made great jump still should be a lot more).

They wait them be like look 200% increase when in reality had they be slowly increase it throughout time it would be far greater than it is now

But, still...it's an improvement. Most were expecting more losses. The willingness to actually look at language and be open to new definitions is huge on the board. I'm betting our legal team did not advise the board to open those articles to new language. The fact the board did shows a definite improvement in thinking. Bolder thinking. Playing safe was Ronnie's mantra. He and Jeanette lost a lot of ground playing that way.

I'm just happy something positive is coming from a new potential contract. It's been 30 since that happened.

 

[ATCBigE]

But, still...it's an improvement. Most were expecting more losses. The willingness to actually look at language and be open to new definitions is huge on the board. I'm betting our legal team did not advise the board to open those articles to new language. The fact the board did shows a definite improvement in thinking. Bolder thinking. Playing safe was Ronnie's mantra. He and Jeanette lost a lot of ground playing that way.

I'm just happy something positive is coming from a new potential contract. It's been 30 since that happened.

I agree with you that qt least looking into other things. The issue as you said was we are so far behind everyone else because we had our head stuck up our you know what that we are playing catch up to others.

 

[Lindam]

I sympathize with any carrier who has a POV and didn't realize what your financial "incentives" were. Totally agree with increasing ema for those carriers.

From outside looking in it's frankly a slap in the face with inflation and all costs going up.

Our office is going to make an 4 hour AUX route POV soon.
Gee I wonder how many of the remaining RCA's we have are going to jump at the opportunity to deliver rural boxes from the left hand side and be the express runner 6 days a week.

I'm a no vote fully recognizing an arbitrator won't make it better. It's what it is.

I just read the"highlights" of the new contract proposal and can't say i'm surprised.

Look at this press release:
[The Postal Service and the National Rural Letter Carriers’ Association (NRLCA) have reached a tentative negotiated agreement.

Upon ratification by the union membership, which will take several weeks, the agreement will run through May 20, 2027.

“This agreement is ECONOMICALLY RESPONSIBLE]
Here's the link USPS, NRLCA reach tentative agreement – USPS Employee News

The highlights are it's horrible for everyone, but still favors table one over table 2 albeit in a minuscule way.

This union is broken broken broken. Think about it. We are paying every pay period for these geniuses at the union and they just rubber stamp what USPS management says and we are supposed to accept it.

I'm losing $10k a year next month and i'm supposed to jump up and down about a 1%cola on table 2 annually.

Get bent. If anyone says getting cut is in the contract so be it. That's what the members voted for in the past and it's codified.
Guess what you voted for a bad contract.

Hard no here. Go to arbitration

Cola is based on the cpi. They fluctuate based on the economy. The contractual increases are standard.
Rca’s get 1% vs cola. We used to get nothing.
Rca’s can post for opening after probation, which is now shorter.
A biggie - which no one seems to be discussing is the elimination of the 60 min change rule. It used to be 2 hrs, then 1, now nothing. Your volume factor will change 2x a yr, but your pay will be based on the number of boxes you serve. No more manipulation by mgmt or your ams person. How many times have you been 10-20 min away from “the next hour?”
Maybe you’re a 47 desperate to get to the safety zone of a 46. Easier now.
Imo, vote yes. Stay on top of your rrecs scans. Get paid for what you do.