Attacks on rural letter carriers the beginning of devastating restructuring of the US Postal Service
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Mr.Dink'sMailBag
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Neither the USPS or the NRLCA give a shit about us. It's all about what's in it for them. We as rural carriers are used and abused by both sides. One day the rural craft will simply be a thing of the past. We are being disassembled and thrown to the side like useless trash. I once took pride in being a carrier, the only thing keeping me in is the customers on my route who deserve better than the bullshit being handed out by the USPS. I'm lucky to have decent customers for the most part. They are the ones who get a big screw you in the end.
@Mr.Dink'sMailBag - i completely agree.
however, please edit your post for language so it doesn't get removed per forum guidelines. thank you!
however, please edit your post for language so it doesn't get removed per forum guidelines. thank you!
Mr.Dink'sMailBag
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Unclewolverine
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Mentally im already done here. I'm just coasting until an equal paying job with better days off comes along. I'm not working 6 days a week for the next 20 years. Also, I don't believe they are done screwing us.
DB.Cooper
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I've heard no effective plans to turn this bloodbath around.... they've got a screw you tool now that will deal devastation for years to come.... and unlike previous screw jobs, like Table 2, this one spares no one, it can screw old timers as well as the newbies.... quite devious and ingenious.... I'm glad it didn't hit until I was already one foot out the door.... as Mr. T would say, I pity the fools who will have to work under this abortion of a pay system for the coming years.... 
Unclewolverine
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It was already hard to get people in the door.I've heard no effective plans to turn this bloodbath around.... they've got a screw you tool now that will deal devastation for years to come.... and unlike previous screw jobs, like Table 2, this one spares no one, it can screw old timers as well as the newbies.... quite devious and ingenious.... I'm glad it didn't hit until I was already one foot out the door.... as Mr. T would say, I pity the fools who will have to work under this abortion of a pay system for the coming years....
DB.Cooper
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I'm not seeing any heading in, but many seem to be heading out, or at least laying plans to go....
DB.Cooper
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Like what?This article was off on MANY points! This was horrible investigating on the writer’s part. They should at least get the FACTS right.
gotstamps
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The article was published on July 2 by World Socialist WS. The author claims that this was negotiated in our contract a year ago… wrong! They claim that the Union & PO created the RRECS system… Wrong! They claim that the Union is depriving carriers of any way to fight the system when the Union has laid out the documentation that we need to request to empower ourselves so we may locate the inconsistencies in our Evaluation calculations.Like what?
There are also claims of Privatization & claims of all Unions allowing lowering of all workers pay as well as knowledge of such for over a year. Where is the Proof of these allegations? We would not have had raises & backpay in the contract if this were true. The PO would not have agreed & instead would’ve let it go to an impass & later Arbitration. The savings of RRECS for the PO would have been a hell of a lot more. If it weren’t for those raises, I would have lost approx. $7000 at the Pre-Contract wages but instead I am actually only down about $1500.
It also claims that the consolidation of routes to the new Delivery Centers would cut jobs which is also not true. We would be adding quite a bit of mileage to each route & more likely creating routes Which would create more Career Jobs for Carriers.
The majority of this piece was purely fiction.
To be fair, it's impossible to explain our system to anyone. Most working under the system don't understand it. But, I'm not super critical of the USPS/nrlca agreed to it comment. They did by way of an arbitration initiation. But, all parts of the rrecs system were mutually agreed to prior to Implementing. The nrlca said so in many forums.
gotstamps
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Some things could be agreed upon like upping some credits but that still had to go through the engineers & arbiter approval.
The arbitrator never reviewed the process once they ordered both to investigate a new compensation system.
The 3 person panel of engineers had the real power. And both parties agreed to abide by the findings of the engineers.
Its splitting hairs to say nrlca did not agree. They did. Nrlca is still stating the system seems sound by standards.
The fact that most rurals lost under the new system was unfortunate. That's a direct quote of the board.
gotstamps
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Sorry. it’s the 3rd engineer that works as the ”Decider” that I think of as an “Arbitrator“ in a sense. If we had been given all credits as they should have been given, a lot more of us would not have lost so much if any at all.
Agreed. The engineers wrote in their report wss/wsh were to be included for coverage factor- USPS unilaterally changed to only wss. The engineers findings were cherry picked by USPS to the extent they could. And nrlca failed to fire back a labor charge.
Its a dismal mess that will be years in correction.
gotstamps
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The Union agreed to the removal of WSH as is seen in the April 2022 Cheat Sheet on the Union website.
Some offices are still allowing the use if a large majority of the route is covered.
SilverHair
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But the union also insisted WSH was being captured as late as early this year, but then after the MMS our office was informed it should have been counted in MMS and that union knew by then it wasn’t being included in automatic counts. Way too many tweaks and inconsistencies and misinformation to have gone live with this.
FrozenToes
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311. Flats and letters WSH. I see that was deleted from the Q and A. Is that still one of the
scans?
A. No, as per the Engineering Panel, the WSS Scans are for mail endorsed "WSS" only.
For some reason the Union went back for guidance from the panel and changed the original Q&A.
FrozenToes
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Just reading it wrong. Sorry.
