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Supervisor having 5 yr RCA training new RCA over regular carrier

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Can a supervising postmaster in an office choose to have a new RCA be trained by a five-year RCA over the regular carrier of 29 years?

Is there any language in our contract stating that an RCA is able to be chosen to train a new RCA if there is a regular carrier servicing the particular route?
 
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Can a supervising postmaster in an office choose to have a new RCA be trained by a five-year RCA over the regular carrier of 29 years?

Is there any language in our contract stating that an RCA is able to be chosen to train a new RCA if there is a regular carrier servicing the particular route?
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It isn't a hard rule, but normally, it's supposed to be the regular.
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Inquisitor54 -- "Can a supervising postmaster in an office choose to have a new RCA be trained by a five-year RCA over the regular carrier of 29 years? Is there any language in our contract stating that an RCA is able to be chosen to train a new RCA if there is a regular carrier servicing the particular route?"

-- Could be the PM knows the 29-year regular is like "DB" and has one foot out the door. Probably that carrier does not really care about RRECS and has stated it to the PM. The carrier probably told the PM that since he does not get any extra pay for training a new RCA, better have someone else do it.

-- On the other hand, the 5-year RCA, hopefully is up to speed on RRECS and is willing to train the new RCA.

-- As expected, nothing in black and white about regulars training subs in the contract.

-- ELM's Section 711.13 Responsibility ( for training and development ). Responsibility for the training and development of postal employees is shared by the individual employee, his or her supervisor or manager, and the organization.

-- The F-21's ( Time and Attendance handbook ) Section 587.13 - Standard Program - addresses the standard program for training rural carriers, but does not specify whom does the training.
 
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Inquisitor54 -- "Can a supervising postmaster in an office choose to have a new RCA be trained by a five-year RCA over the regular carrier of 29 years? Is there any language in our contract stating that an RCA is able to be chosen to train a new RCA if there is a regular carrier servicing the particular route?"

-- Could be the PM knows the 29-year regular is like "DB" and has one foot out the door. Probably that carrier does not really care about RRECS and has stated it to the PM. The carrier probably told the PM that since he does not get any extra pay for training a new RCA, better have someone else do it.

-- On the other hand, the 5-year RCA, hopefully is up to speed on RRECS and is willing to train the new RCA.

-- As expected, nothing in black and white about regulars training subs in the contract.

-- ELM's Section 711.13 Responsibility ( for training and development ). Responsibility for the training and development of postal employees is shared by the individual employee, his or her supervisor or manager, and the organization.

-- The F-21's ( Time and Attendance handbook ) Section 587.13 - Standard Program - addresses the standard program for training rural carriers, but does not specify whom does the training.
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The 29 year regular is the senior carrier has 7 more years until retirement. Senior cares about route and follows procedure with RRECS. The sub is the primary on my route so how can pm have her train new RCA on a route she’s not a primary on? RCA doesn’t even like working the senior carriers route and actually cries when she has a big day on the route Anna threatens to quite.

5 year RCA IS NOT up to speed with RRECS, does not seem to care, and will not do any additional scans their not told to do. I don’t understand this behavior from our pm. 🤦🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️
 
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I don't think there is any specific rule that says a regular carrier is the one that has to train an RCA only that the training needs to be completed. (shadow days and 3 8 hour days etc.)

I was trained by a couple RCAs and trained other RCAs since the regular carriers on those routes were close to retirement and didn't care at all or they were out on extended medical leave etc.
 
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Inquisitor54 said:
Can a supervising postmaster in an office choose to have a new RCA be trained by a five-year RCA over the regular carrier of 29 years?

Is there any language in our contract stating that an RCA is able to be chosen to train a new RCA if there is a regular carrier servicing the particular route?
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It isn't a hard rule, but normally, it's supposed to be the regular.
 
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Inquisitor54 -- Thanx for the update. Just throwing possibilities on the wall to see if any applied.

-- As usual, making general assumptions generally ends up not applying. Sorry.

-- Bring in your Assistant District Representative to ask manglement about the choice to train the sub.
 
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btdtret said:
Inquisitor54 -- "Can a supervising postmaster in an office choose to have a new RCA be trained by a five-year RCA over the regular carrier of 29 years? Is there any language in our contract stating that an RCA is able to be chosen to train a new RCA if there is a regular carrier servicing the particular route?"

-- Could be the PM knows the 29-year regular is like "DB" and has one foot out the door. Probably that carrier does not really care about RRECS and has stated it to the PM. The carrier probably told the PM that since he does not get any extra pay for training a new RCA, better have someone else do it.

-- On the other hand, the 5-year RCA, hopefully is up to speed on RRECS and is willing to train the new RCA.

-- As expected, nothing in black and white about regulars training subs in the contract.

-- ELM's Section 711.13 Responsibility ( for training and development ). Responsibility for the training and development of postal employees is shared by the individual employee, his or her supervisor or manager, and the organization.

-- The F-21's ( Time and Attendance handbook ) Section 587.13 - Standard Program - addresses the standard program for training rural carriers, but does not specify whom does the training.
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Thanks for the info and references. This forum is a great resource to come for help.
 
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btdtret said:
Inquisitor54 -- Thanx for the update. Just throwing possibilities on the wall to see if any applied.

-- As usual, making general assumptions generally ends up not applying. Sorry.

-- Bring in your Assistant District Representative to ask manglement about the choice to train the sub.
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You are totally fine in your comments. Those are valid possibilities that apply to some carriers, just not ours. I’m not offended, no need to apologize.

Good suggestion to bring in ADR. I’ll pass info along. Thank you.
 
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