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If an H Route goes to an Aux route what is to be expected, aside from the obvious? Will you lose insurance? Will you be a displaced regular carrier needing to find a new route, etc.?
What Happens When an H Route Is Cut to An Aux Route
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If you're a regular working that route, then the least senior regular carrier working a route in your offfice becomes excessed and may bid on any vacant route in an office within 50 miles, awarded by seniority of excessed carriers bidding. The excessed carrier may decide to remain in the office as a PTF and work the aux route.
What can happen to you is if you're the least senior, you maintain your employment and your insurance. You're either PTF in your office, or you win a bid in another office and become a regular carrier there.
Read section 12.5 in our contract for details and to verify this information
What can happen to you is if you're the least senior, you maintain your employment and your insurance. You're either PTF in your office, or you win a bid in another office and become a regular carrier there.
Read section 12.5 in our contract for details and to verify this information
Beanut
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I was always told if a regular was assigned to a route and the evaluated dropped it could drop to 25 hrs evaluation and the carrier would remain a regular carrier. But if they vacate the route, it then would become an AUX and an RCA would assigned.
Am I mis understanding?
I attached a chart from the contract (showing H routes as low as 25 hrs-it regarding holiday time.)
Am I mis understanding?
I attached a chart from the contract (showing H routes as low as 25 hrs-it regarding holiday time.)
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I believe now according to contract it's 35 hours.
Beanut
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If that’s the case I know some one route offices that are going to be in really binds.
EthelAnne
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Has there been a statement or MOU saying routes will not be consolidated until the next survey? That makes sense but I’m not sure if I’ve seen or heard anything that directly addresses this.
gotstamps
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Nope. The Union’s stand is that it never helped in the past to force mgmt to leave Aux & New routes alone for rebuilding.
It will be at mgmt’s discretion to rebuild if the territory exists. It would be smart for mgmt to utilize Aux routes & overburdened routes to rebuild Substandard routes to at least an H-route but if the territory isn’t there then nothing will be done.
Substandard route Carriers have the Guarantee hours of 40 until the end of the Guarantee Period in October even if the routes dips below a 40H. If that route doesn’t get rebuilt or doesn’t evaluate higher in September, that’s when the excising of a carrier could happen.
Purely a guess, but my intuition tells me they want to use those routes to add to others that have taken a big hit with the new evaluations. Like aux routes. Reduces vacant routes, fewer subs needed, PO saves money.
So I were to bid on a short h route and it goes under 40. I can try to save it without worry of being excess till Oct. Is this wording in the contract? Thanks
Beanut
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How do they rebuild if it is the only route in the office?
Most of the offices around here are one route.
example these 3 are under different APOs ie.
1. H that stops in 2 offices (2 different APOs)
2. H that occasionally bumps to a j in the summer.
3. AUX that stops in 3 offices (2 office under same APO- 3rd is under #1s APO.
Ironically the AUX is larger than the 2 H routes.
I’ve covered all these route, and
2 H routes will likely loose, but AUX I feel has always been under evaluated and I think will gain and hit H status if they had a single carrier covering it doing the proper RRECS scans but they haven’t.
I’m curious how they will handle these situations
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EthelAnne
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If there is only one regular route in an office and it drops below standard, it stops being a regular route and it becomes an auxiliary route.
Article 12.5.B explains route consolidations.
EthelAnne
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ok, not an expert on this by any means, but I think the rural carrier who is excessed must accept a vacancy within a 50 mile radius of the original office, if one exists. I don’t think they have the option to wait around until the next guarantee period if there are vacancies nearby. Only if there are NO vacancies in the area are they guaranteed the 40 hours until the next guarantee period. But I may be wrong about this, so please correct me if I am mistaken .
But like my question upthread—I’m not sure the normal procedures will apply here, given the number of errors in implementing RRECS, it may be unclear if a route has actually fallen below standard at the end of the mini mail survey, which is why it would make sense not move anyone around just yet and wait until after the second survey later this year, but I haven’t heard anything from a reliable source stating they will not consolidate routes after this first survey.
gotstamps
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The Guarantee Wage goes into effect when a route drops below a 40H. It stays in effect until the next Guarantee Period. If those routes can be rebuilt and/or count in Sept to over 40 hours then the Guarantee goes away.
The Evaluations will be the Evaluations. Substandard routes will hopefully be built up. I don’t see any of this being “thrown out“.
EthelAnne
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I think we might be talking about two different things--I'm talking about what happens to excessed carriers and you seem to be saying a carrier with a route that falls below standard can hang around collecting 40H pay until October. I don't believe that is the case. I believe they will be required to take a vacant route in their 50 mile radius (if one exists) and their substandard route will be consolidated.
My question from up thread was, "Would the USPS take the drastic action of consolidating routes when there are a lot of questions about the implementation of RRECS?" That is, a route could come back as substandard because the carrier has not been doing or did not know how to do the RRECS scans, causing the route to fall below standard when it really was not below standard. Wouldn't it be prudent to wait until the next survey before consolidating routes and moving carriers around? (Of course it would be, I was looking to see if anyone heard anything about something like a moratorium on consolidations until the next survey).
Anyway, it doesn't really matter as I just saw a thread over on Reddit where a rural carrier doesn't understand why his packages and outgoing mail aren't being counted and no one in his office seems to be able to tell him why . . .
gotstamps
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In one of the Union RRECS meetings, this was asked & answered. If a route is evaluated below the 40H threshold, the carrier is paid the Guarantee wage as 40 hours at their current Step until October 7 (for this year). Hopefully their route will bounce back in the next Survey in September.
I believe that's the intent of the wage guarantee, to give the route (it's regular, subs) a chance to do everything allowed to help bring the route back to regular status. In October, the PM can use office aux route growth to supplement that route if needed.
And if not, that carrier isn't necessarily the one excessed, it's the least junior carrier in that office.
gotstamps
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Actually, mgmt can bust up an Aux route to rebuild a route to Standard hours. There’s no waiting needed but there’s no documentation forcing mgmt to do such, either.
Yes, the blissfull ignorance defense.
