aaomidi
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I explicitly pointed that out to her and she said something along the lines of "I'm interpreting this as one-half mile round trip"
Question about the 1/2 mile rule
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Shannonboy
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Shannonboy
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Work around, have 3 customers on my route that are over .5 miles from LoT. They built structure, or supplied a sturdy container closer to LoT. I can deliver parcels now, and they are happy was a win win in my book
.Spot on !!! That's ALL it is. The PO has been delivering to these homes at these distances for DECADES and NOW it's an issue ? No different than the "authorizeddismounts" and "trip2door". Carriers , for DECADES, were making multiple trips and NOW that there is some compensation involved, carriers are on the "outlier" list.
FirstclassPITA
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When they mention passable road do they mean a road that is wide enough for two cars or at least wide enough for cars to be able to pass each other? Or is passable meant to mean maintained? It is .5 miles one way but have definitely heard people argue it is .5 round trip.
Is there any language which states we are NOT to deliver to anyone beyond .5 miles? To me the language makes it seem like we are not required to but it doesn't say we are not allowed to. I wouldn't ever do it but some people might want to. Could they discipline you for delivering packages beyond a half mile?
Is there any language which states we are NOT to deliver to anyone beyond .5 miles? To me the language makes it seem like we are not required to but it doesn't say we are not allowed to. I wouldn't ever do it but some people might want to. Could they discipline you for delivering packages beyond a half mile?
EthelAnne
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EthelAnne
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Time wasting practice, perhaps. If you were to get into an accident or have some other issue (breakdown) with a government vehicle, then yes. Absent these examples, it would be unlikely thst management would even know, so
.The more important issue (to me at least!) is that you would not be paid for traveling that distance.
stillfirstclass
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i just quickly figured i donated the gas for upwards of 35,000 miles of unpaid driveways in my 38 year career... it was the last spring of my employment, that i said no more to 1/2 mile + and pot holed filled driveways... i broke 2 springs that i can remember 
Rt2mailman
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Read carefully everyone. It states that rural carriers are required to deliver up to 1/2 mile from the route’s line of travel. It does NOT say that rural carriers are ever LIMITED to travel only 1/2 mile from the line of travel. Therefore the pm trying to limit any carrier delivering parcels to any customer at ANY DISTANCE, is contrary to our contract. I understand not wanting to deliver beyond 1/2 mile in a pov, but on the Usps gas, deliver where you want. You are now paid the time for the distance if you mapped the customer’s door and parking spot correctly.
Speaking of delivering to tubs near the mailbox or customer’s gate, those deliveries are credited as to THE DOOR if you mapped your route correctly, and you scan as delivered “at garage or OTHER AT ADDRESS”. Don’t shaft yourselves and scan “in or at box”, that is incorrect unless you’re able to remain seated and place the parcel on or attached to the box.
Speaking of delivering to tubs near the mailbox or customer’s gate, those deliveries are credited as to THE DOOR if you mapped your route correctly, and you scan as delivered “at garage or OTHER AT ADDRESS”. Don’t shaft yourselves and scan “in or at box”, that is incorrect unless you’re able to remain seated and place the parcel on or attached to the box.
FirstclassPITA
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Thank you! I was questioning because our union dude was taking passable to mean that you can literally pass someone on the road
In a pov there would be no remuneration for fuel. Shouldn't we be getting paid for the driving distance though if the points are plotted correctly under rrecs? Under the old count system it definitely wasn't worth it. Still don't think it is "worth" it now but this post made me think about it.Time wasting practice, perhaps. If you were to get into an accident or have some other issue (breakdown) with a government vehicle, then yes. Absent these examples, it would be unlikely thst management would even know, so
The more important issue (to me at least!) is that you would not be paid for traveling that distance.
Shannonboy
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Hey my friend....just noticed you posted your pic....my advice, is dont. I would delete it. You post anything on this site, even just information requests, it can make you a target with some postal mgmt. Some of mgmt here at the po can be real
holes...if you get my hint.. at the least, and psychotic, need fired, and FEDERALLY prosecuted, locked away for life at the worst. Postal mgmt....WORST BUNCH OF people I ever worked with in my life. FIRE EM ALL...Just curious, have you checked the distance from where the carrier normally drives past your area?
EthelAnne
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I don’t think the mapping system will allow you to put a delivery point 1/2 mile from the line of travel.
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FirstclassPITA
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They had me map out all my customers in my cbus. Even the ones i don't deliver to that are multiple miles away from the box. Don't know if they had to override any type of warning system in place or would even allow it to be done now since everyone is more familiar with the system but the first time i did my mapping my supervisor said map em all. That is part of why it took me 2 days to map my route.
EthelAnne
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Local management does not interpret USPS policy, procedure, or the contracts. That’s not their job. Interpreting this stuff is not a matter of opinion, with everyone’s opinion being equally valid. Each district has an entire department (Labor Relations) full of people who local management should contact to provide interpretation and understanding. And we, of course, have our union representatives.
Your office is not the first office that did not understand what 1/2 mile means. It is understood—by the people whose opinions count!—that it means one way.
I’m assuming you are a USPS employee who is having a problem getting packages delivered to your home? I originally thought you were a carrier who wanted to deliver beyond the 1/2 mile, which had me scratching my head why a carrier would want to do this.
I think your only recourse here is to contact your Congressman, since local management isn’t helping (and also stupid). Get them involved, share the info from the PS 603 that has been provided and see if that makes a difference.
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EthelAnne
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Yeah, taking two days to map was fairly common during that initial mapping, so not at all surprised to hear it took that long.
I’m not a mapping facilitator—I think there are members on this forum who were/are and I hope they will chime in with a definitive answer. I do know that the system alerts whenever a delivery point is beyond 150 feet but that alert can be over ridden by local management.
stillfirstclass
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u r correct, or were before i retired: edit: when mapped i thought a couple houses were exactly 1/2 mile, they were,,, but then they had a 400 or 500 foot driveway off the private road that excedes the distance and would get the pop up saying uh uh when plotting door
Deer Smearer
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Congressional 360. Moves mountains.
I suspect it is a customer
