I think postmaster lying?

[jbpowers1965]

I had a scheduled doctors appointment,
We have no subs so the postmaster had run my route.
I always check with the reports when I get back to see if I am getting correct credit for my route
Well the report says no unscan parcels,
Which I get 9-11 a day
Load time exactly same 10:15-10:15
Zeros across the board
So I question him about it
He says he put that stuff in, but didn’t register “ I don’t know why”
Then he say’s probably cuz I logging in as a postmaster

I call bull
Am I wrong?

 

[jaymacgthree]

This is why nobody but rural carriers should deliver routes. The union left too many loopholes open that screw us and there is nothing that says non-rural carriers must use RRECS. It's just like with city carriers running rural routes. They know nothing of RRECS and they have to use their menu so that everything they do gets tracked and coded for timekeeping. NRLCA would also like you to believe an average gets applied when there are missing entries... the truth was in the report. You got nothing.

 

[jbpowers1965]

This is why nobody but rural carriers should deliver routes. The union left too many loopholes open that screw us and there is nothing that says non-rural carriers must use RRECS. It's just like with city carriers running rural routes. They know nothing of RRECS and they have to use their menu so that everything they do gets tracked and coded for timekeeping. NRLCA would also like you to believe an average gets applied when there are missing entries... the truth was in the report. You got nothing.

He is a new postmaster, was a rural carrier before
So you think he would know what he is doin, unless he is deliberately trying to screw me over


Ooooh I made up for it on the following days

 

[Old Fart]

just a thought -- more lazy than anything else, wanted to just get it done as fast as possible and get on to his regular duties, or he forgot to sign into scanner properly.

Post office management usually does stuff that's better for them, as they don't care about you, so it sometimes looks like a personal screwing when sometimes it's just self focus, since it's such a habit with them

 

[Gotrope]

He says he put that stuff in, but didn’t register “ I don’t know why”

Get that in writing for future grievances. I mean, if mgmt is going to throw the credibility of rrecs under the bus...

 

[Old Fart]

Get that in writing for future grievances. I mean, if mgmt is going to throw the credibility of rrecs under the bus...

Get ANYTHING you question in writing, no matter what or when. Documentation wins in grievances.

 

[Rt2mailman]

Pm or city side I’d no reason for not logging into the scanner properly. On rural route and the number. If not logged on properly no unscanned parcels will register because the program will not know which route to place them. I would make up for load times by starting mine while I pulled down for a week, and my unscanned parcels would all be delivered to the “individual” for a week also. We can play this game if forced to

 

[jbpowers1965]

Pm or city side I’d no reason for not logging into the scanner properly. On rural route and the number. If not logged on properly no unscanned parcels will register because the program will not know which route to place them. I would make up for load times by starting mine while I pulled down for a week, and my unscanned parcels would all be delivered to the “individual” for a week also. We can play this game if forced to

Exactly

 

[ATCBigE]

Yet our union wasn't smart about to think about things like this and just make it only when regulars run the route. It's just so stupid that with the shortage of subs that they just completely forgot about others doing it.

Just remember MMS is only 6%. What about the other 94% of the time? What about the times I am suppose to be off Saturday and person who is suppose to run call off sick and I already have plans and run only 2 hours before I have to leave.

100% RRECS needs complete makeover on the rules.

 

[ATCBigE]

This is why nobody but rural carriers should deliver routes. The union left too many loopholes open that screw us and there is nothing that says non-rural carriers must use RRECS. It's just like with city carriers running rural routes. They know nothing of RRECS and they have to use their menu so that everything they do gets tracked and coded for timekeeping. NRLCA would also like you to believe an average gets applied when there are missing entries... the truth was in the report. You got nothing.

Yep. Why it should only count when regular runs it.

Well maybe they did get an average, but since we can't see this "PROMISED DATABASE or WEBSITE" the union said we were going to get. Another empty promise.

 

[muttleycrue]

 

[neciat]

He is a new postmaster, was a rural carrier before
So you think he would know what he is doin

He's a Postmaster because he DID NOT know what he was doing as a carrier.

 

[Old Fart]

The Step 4's (basically, USPS can't provide volume documentation by route to support RRECS evaluations for each carrier) remain in limbo. The post office systems aren't capable of providing the information, so they can't be brought to mutual conclusion.

The engineers designed a complex system to administer with far too many gray areas. The methodology is fully redacted so we have no clue as to their real work, just the conclusions. No appeals, no modifications.

Even though rollout was delayed YEARS, it was STILL rushed to utilization by all carriers. Almost NOBODY is accurately and fully versed in it's total operation. "field testing" was suspect, rubber stamped by a minute group.

The point here is there should be a clean up of the entire system. But it can't be done until carriers are shown that all the flats and parcels are ACCURATELY RECORDED in the database hence giving credit to routes as claimed. Typical government -- it can't be done with the software and resources USPS has, so it's going to slide into forever. We have no leverage whatsoever since we can't work slowdown or strike.

I suppose ten sets of political daily has me grouchy-er than normal.

 

[Gotrope]

He's a Postmaster because he DID NOT know what he was doing as a carrier.

Nah, he probably had too many year@ left and saw the writing on the wall for rurals. Lots of rurals are now heading into mgmt, unlike last decades.

 

[Gotrope]

Yet our union wasn't smart about to think about things like this and just make it only when regulars run the route. It's just so stupid that with the shortage of subs that they just completely forgot about others doing it.

Just remember MMS is only 6%. What about the other 94% of the time? What about the times I am suppose to be off Saturday and person who is suppose to run call off sick and I already have plans and run only 2 hours before I have to leave.

100% RRECS needs complete makeover on the rules.

Privately, from what I've seen, I think rrecs is 35- 45% in usps favor over the averages. That is from a statistical medium. All the errors and rounding are in their favor.

 

[Big ben]

Yep. Why it should only count when regular runs it.

Well maybe they did get an average, but since we can't see this "PROMISED DATABASE or WEBSITE" the union said we were going to get. Another empty promise.

That’s y if the reg is not on route then the day should be deleted. Only makes sense. Even when sub is on route. Like they are doing everything. They can’t even finish the route, and usually quit before they get go on the route.

 

[Rt2mailman]

I don’t know about you, but my subs are great, and do a fine job with most of my Rrecs numbers, I check. I do take time to train them properly, however.
Dropping out a day per week and/or every time an RCA would work is ridiculous. How would you figure those days? The regular’s average? Or just delete the days completely? Where would all the bundled flats figure in?
You’re not thinking this through. If subs aren’t making it on your route, there are a few possibilities why not.
1) Not trained properly
2) Unexperienced and route UNDER EVALUATED or just over burdened
3) Pay too low to give the RCA job enough value in the eyes of those employees to be concerned to work as previous RCAs once did

 

[ATCBigE]

I don’t know about you, but my subs are great, and do a fine job with most of my Rrecs numbers, I check. I do take time to train them properly, however.
Dropping out a day per week and/or every time an RCA would work is ridiculous. How would you figure those days? The regular’s average? Or just delete the days completely? Where would all the bundled flats figure in?
You’re not thinking this through. If subs aren’t making it on your route, there are a few possibilities why not.
1) Not trained properly
2) Unexperienced and route UNDER EVALUATED or just over burdened
3) Pay too low to give the RCA job enough value in the eyes of those employees to be concerned to work as previous RCAs once did

Here's the issue. There are some subs that are great and do that stuff, but there are others that are more worried about the under 40 so they get paid more so they will rush through things. I have had a great sub for a few months then he transfer and he did the things I told him. Now I have to use whoever to take a day off and who knows if they are doing what I taught them AND OR if not the plant is dumping 3X to 4X my evaluation because why not and now the RCA have to rush or getting behind and so on.

 

[jbpowers1965]

Well this idiot is a postmaster, old rural carrier.
And he can’t do it right or won’t do it right

 

[jaymacgthree]

I don’t know about you, but my subs are great, and do a fine job with most of my Rrecs numbers, I check. I do take time to train them properly, however.
Dropping out a day per week and/or every time an RCA would work is ridiculous. How would you figure those days? The regular’s average? Or just delete the days completely? Where would all the bundled flats figure in?
You’re not thinking this through. If subs aren’t making it on your route, there are a few possibilities why not.
1) Not trained properly
2) Unexperienced and route UNDER EVALUATED or just over burdened
3) Pay too low to give the RCA job enough value in the eyes of those employees to be concerned to work as previous RCAs once did

I know a lot of good subs too and agree with your reasoning. Many not trained or are trained by Regs that barely know the jobs themselves. Many routes are under-evaluated despite being overburdened because speed demons feel the need to race through the route. Then around here we have McDonald's, Subway and others that pay as much as RCAs get paid but those places are easier, more fun and you get a free meal each shift unlike the PO lol