LWOP Question about RRECS

[Heirwalker]

Quick question, my rural route is a heavy walking route that has a Mall, they shorted me 11,000 feet a day on my dismount distance on the final print out sheet. They know they did it and are trying to correct it but they don't know if they can have it fixed before implementation day on October the 4th. I went from a 46k to a 43J, Lol; Anyways my question is, until they restore my route to a K status, can I take leave without pay on my work J day even if I have sick and annual days. I don't want to have to waste my leave on behalf of their mistake and try to get reimbursed for it and all that goes with that. I would just grieve the LWOP time after my route is restored to try and have it removed. Thanks!!

 

[neciat]

According to the attached Step 4 as well as this citation from The Nat'l Agreement , as long as there is an available RCA , yes, you can.

Upon request, a rural carrier shall be granted annual
leave or leave without pay on Saturday, at the carrier’s
option, provided a leave replacement is available

 

[Heirwalker]

According to the attached Step 4 as well as this citation from The Nat'l Agreement , as long as there is an available RCA , yes, you can.

Upon request, a rural carrier shall be granted annual
leave or leave without pay on Saturday, at the carrier’s
option, provided a leave replacement is available

Thanks for that, Only problem is my off day is Monday, Can it be any relief day or does it only apply to Saturday's?

 

[IDPOSTAL]

Also, once you hit (I'm pretty sure it's 10 days since when I got a ZERO $$ pay check I lost both) you lose whatever annual leave you earn per pay period & sick leave for that pay period. Once you hit that magic number, it's going to be even more of a mess. Good luck. Too bad WRECKS is so SCREWED UP!!

 

[neciat]

Thanks for that, Only problem is my off day is Monday, Can it be any relief day or does it only apply to Saturday's?

You can request LWOP for any day. However, management often times will assume the position that Saturday LWOP is the ONLY day they are REQUIRED to grant LWOP provided there is coverage. There are several ways to approach this issue. You can go ahead and submit a leave slip NOW with the day ( Monday ) that they have you scheduled to work after the new evaluations take effect and see if that request is approved or denied. You could also actually work the Monday(s) and after they finally correct the issue, you could grieve the fact that you worked your relief day(s) and are entitled to an X day(s) and the half a day pay. BUT, since you would have earned the X day(s) from the beginning of the guarantee period through the end of the Christmas overtime period and more than likely were NOT able to use the X day(s) that same pay period(s), the X day(s) would be cashed out. From The Nat'l Agreement ;

k. During the period that starts with the beginning of
the guarantee period through the end of the des-
ignated Christmas period, a regular rural carrier
who works the relief day and is entitled to an X
day must be given the X day as scheduled by the
Employer within the same pay period in which
the relief day was worked. Regular rural carriers
shall be prohibited from scheduling a previously
earned X day from the beginning of the guar-
antee period through the end of the designated
Christmas period. If the X day is not received
within the same pay period, the Employer will
compensate the regular rural carrier 100% of the
carrier’s daily rate of pay in lieu of the X day.

l. If, for any reason, an X day is not received within
the twelve-week period in accordance with Sub-
sections f.(2) and g. above, the Employer will
compensate the regular rural carrier 100% of the
carrier’s daily rate of pay in lieu of an X day. The
period from the beginning of the guarantee peri-
od through the end of the designated Christmas
period is not included when counting the twelve
weeks in which an X day must be received.

 

[stillfirstclass]

Quick question, my rural route is a heavy walking route that has a Mall, they shorted me 11,000 feet a day on my dismount distance on the final print out sheet. They know they did it and are trying to correct it but they don't know if they can have it fixed before implementation day on October the 4th. I went from a 46k to a 43J, Lol; Anyways my question is, until they restore my route to a K status, can I take leave without pay on my work J day even if I have sick and annual days. I don't want to have to waste my leave on behalf of their mistake and try to get reimbursed for it and all that goes with that. I would just grieve the LWOP time after my route is restored to try and have it removed. Thanks!!

most likely will deny, have the rca who was available file a grievance they will get bank and have stayed home

 

[Heirwalker]

You can request LWOP for any day. However, management often times will assume the position that Saturday LWOP is the ONLY day they are REQUIRED to grant LWOP provided there is coverage. There are several ways to approach this issue. You can go ahead and submit a leave slip NOW with the day ( Monday ) that they have you scheduled to work after the new evaluations take effect and see if that request is approved or denied. You could also actually work the Monday(s) and after they finally correct the issue, you could grieve the fact that you worked your relief day(s) and are entitled to an X day(s) and the half a day pay. BUT, since you would have earned the X day(s) from the beginning of the guarantee period through the end of the Christmas overtime period and more than likely were NOT able to use the X day(s) that same pay period(s), the X day(s) would be cashed out. From The Nat'l Agreement ;

k. During the period that starts with the beginning of
the guarantee period through the end of the des-
ignated Christmas period, a regular rural carrier
who works the relief day and is entitled to an X
day must be given the X day as scheduled by the
Employer within the same pay period in which
the relief day was worked. Regular rural carriers
shall be prohibited from scheduling a previously
earned X day from the beginning of the guar-
antee period through the end of the designated
Christmas period. If the X day is not received
within the same pay period, the Employer will
compensate the regular rural carrier 100% of the
carrier’s daily rate of pay in lieu of the X day.

l. If, for any reason, an X day is not received within
the twelve-week period in accordance with Sub-
sections f.(2) and g. above, the Employer will
compensate the regular rural carrier 100% of the
carrier’s daily rate of pay in lieu of an X day. The
period from the beginning of the guarantee peri-

Thank you for that thorough explanation!! That helps a lot!

 

[gotstamps]

Thanks for that, Only problem is my off day is Monday, Can it be any relief day or does it only apply to Saturday's?

J-routes have Saturday as the Relief Day unless agreeable by both mgmt & carrier. Is mgmt approving you keeping Monday as your J-Relief Day.