UPS SurePost volume shifts away from US Postal Service, Teamsters say

[jsthere723]

in another words you cannot multiply by 5 to ascertain your actual k hours because that 442 hrs is not from all 5 days a week hrs

 

[jsthere723]

Plus which 48 days you chose for your calculations will make a big difference. You have to take whole year in calculations to get better picture . Easiest way is total compensation paid to you for the year divided by total hours ( actual hours worked + number of holiday plus leave X 9.6 hrs per) to arrive at your effective hourly rate .

 

[U caught my attention]

What is that multiplied by 5 is for ?

I am unimpressed by the $53 per hour because it isn't on my form 50.
My point is, because we are evaluated, we don't have a way to determine actual hourly rate through actual hours worked.
Unless they recalculate each route as such.
We simply aren't hourly. We have a
rural pay schedule. I think I might have assessed my performance rate to standard by figuring it the way I did. I am finding my average daily hours on only the days I work.
We are paid by the salary of the schedule. I don't ever have a different hourly rate I simply just work less hours. The incentive is supposed to be part of the compensation system. I see the incentive as a nonmonetary compensation in leau of overtime. (Flexible schedule) We literally save them overtime through pushing ourselves with the incentive. I don't consider my hourly rate to be $53 per hour. I truely wish it was because then I would slow down like molasses. My hourly rate is determined by the schedule.

Plus which 48 days you chose for your calculations will make a big difference.

Yes. This is true. I am a 48 trying to keep my hours down because I want a life outside of here. I am also not at all interested in dealing with all the garbage others on here deal with when they.go over.....tsp stealing, letters of demand, filing grievances, working without pay until it's figured out.

 

[jsthere723]

I am unimpressed by the $53 per hour because it isn't on my form 50.
My point is, because we are evaluated, we don't have a way to determine actual hourly rate through actual hours worked.
Unless they recalculate each route as such.
We simply aren't hourly. We have a
rural pay schedule. I think I might have assessed my performance rate to standard by figuring it the way I did. I am finding my average daily hours on only the days I work.
We are paid by the salary of the schedule. I don't ever have a different hourly rate I simply just work less hours. The incentive is supposed to be part of the compensation system. I see the incentive as a nonmonetary compensation in leau of overtime. (Flexible schedule) We literally save them overtime through pushing ourselves with the incentive. I don't consider my hourly rate to be $53 per hour. I truely wish it was because then I would slow down like molasses. My hourly rate is determined by the schedule.


Yes. This is true. I am a 48 trying to keep my hours down because I want a life outside of here. I am also not at all interested in dealing with all the garbage others on here deal with when they.go over.....tsp stealing, letters of demand, filing grievances, working without pay until it's figured out.

No argument there . So it brings us to the point I am trying to make —- it’s foolish to compare our evaluated salary with traditional UPS hourly rate . Grass is not necessarily greener on the other side

 

[U caught my attention]

Easiest way is total compensation paid to you for the year divided by total hours ( actual hours worked + number of holiday plus leave X 9.6 hrs per) to arrive at your effective hourly rate .

Ok. I figured it the way you explained.
I am at $37.73. Step 6
Now explain to me what that number tells you.

 

[stillfirstclass]

Yeah, I wonder if UPS would be much interested in USPS peeps...

these parts, don't tell ups about your postal experience... not gonna help

 

[jsthere723]

Ok. I figured it the way you explained.
I am at $37.73. Step 6
Now explain to me what that number tells you.

Now that’s effective rate with holidays and other leave benefits included as if you have worked in those days .
If you want to ascertain true hourly rate just divide your gross compensation by actual work hours for the year . It would be much higher . .mine comes about 50 as effective hourly rate and about 57 as actual hourly rate without benefit

 

[jsthere723]

Remember, tsp , insurances are not even in this calculation

 

[jsthere723]

We all have way to figure out our actual hourly rate . It will be different for individual. Actual gross pay divided by actual hours worked in a year

 

[Squiggy]

Ok. I figured it the way you explained.
I am at $37.73. Step 6
Now explain to me what that number tells you.

If you table one stay. If you table 2 UPS 49hr after 3 years sounds good to me!

 

[U caught my attention]

We all have way to figure out our actual hourly rate . It will be different for individual. Actual gross pay divided by actual hours worked in a year

Mine for last guarantee period is $47.92
I am only at $36.97 per hour when I add my paid leave hours back in for last guarantee. Isn't the pay cap at 48 directly affecting these hourly rates. I likely did a higher rate in both when my standard hours had a corresponding wage on the pay schedule

 

[jsthere723]

Mine for last guarantee period is $47.92
I am only at $36.97 per hour when I add my paid leave hours back in for last guarantee. Isn't the pay cap at 48 directly affecting these hourly rates. I likely did a higher rate in both when my standard hours had a corresponding wage on the pay schedule

Yes . This is more like the true rate

 

[jsthere723]

Yes without cap it would have been even better

 

[U caught my attention]

Yes without cap it would have been even better

Nonparity

 

[Haygrrl]

This was due to the inability to foresee things, and the leadership still suffers from this.
When it was written, an rca might have had to come in to deliver a few express mail pieces in a Sunday, the NRLCA never foresaw Amazon coming. The language left the door open to more work with the words “reasonable effort.”
The same thing happened with the inability to foresee not having enough cloud data space for the rrecs data. The recent MOU for adjusted routes, so now we have to wait a year for a new evaluation instead of 6 months, and many other examples. The problem is the leadership is just plain stupid, they’re uneducated.

Exactly why our legal team, Gann and associates, needs to go..it's their job to foresee the legal literature that is used to snare us into modern day slavery. Jmho

 

[Haygrrl]

This was due to the inability to foresee things, and the leadership still suffers from this.
When it was written, an rca might have had to come in to deliver a few express mail pieces in a Sunday, the NRLCA never foresaw Amazon coming. The language left the door open to more work with the words “reasonable effort.”
The same thing happened with the inability to foresee not having enough cloud data space for the rrecs data. The recent MOU for adjusted routes, so now we have to wait a year for a new evaluation instead of 6 months, and many other examples. The problem is the leadership is just plain stupid, they’re uneducated.

Thank you dei

 

[Haygrrl]

That would be great if they delivered them to the door instead of stuffing the mailboxes. Now we have UPS, FedEx and Amazon stuffing my mailboxes.

Last Monday I found 12 packages delivered on Sunday, Friday I found 7 delivered on Thursday. Some stuffed so tight couldn’t i letter in them.

Nope, rhey already posted their increased charges, among others, is a 69% increase in charging to outlying rural addresses

 

[Haygrrl]

That would be great if they delivered them to the door instead of stuffing the mailboxes. Now we have UPS, FedEx and Amazon stuffing my mailboxes.

Last Monday I found 12 packages delivered on Sunday, Friday I found 7 delivered on Thursday. Some stuffed so tight couldn’t i letter in them.

Yup, if I touch it i get paid..if I have the time, I'll take some to the door for unscanned parcel credit, some just end up on the ground

 

[Haygrrl]

And

UPS SurePost packages are now being delivered by UPS drivers only, rather than a large portion of those parcels going to the U.S. Postal Service, a Teamsters union spokesperson told Supply Chain Dive. “Millions of packages moved away from SurePost and the United States Postal Service and returned to UPS package cars this month, now ... Read more

Now, the cover of the Eagle magazine boasts fewer trips, fuller trucks = less drivers, overwork the ones that are left.
Dejoy, brags about increasing package volume but can't even negotiate a contract with our competitors; with the loss of paper mail, and now the loss of these contracts, all I can see is a consolidation of routes....

 

[BluesClues]

Yup, if I touch it i get paid..if I have the time, I'll take some to the door for unscanned parcel credit, some just end up on the ground

Take them back to the office, then UPS, FedEx, Amazon etc.. will have to pick them up and redeliver. That's the only way to make them stop stuffing your boxes. Customers don't like to not get their parcels.. Also scan the picked up packages as a pickup for RRECS credit.