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Voglio-il mio

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I'll start off by asking if anybody knows how Interim Route Adjustment will be effected by RRECS? I would assume that most of the charts we currently use will no longer be accurate due to the way calculations will be done in the future!




I currently require just over 13 boxes new boxes or lost boxes to change my evaluation by 1 hour! With all of these changes in how to calculate our evaluation I would assume the above attachments are all useless! So how and when will we be compensated for growth and will we have to wait a year for it to show up in our paycheck?
 
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I have been told I will likely be sent home quite a bit this spring/summer due to 2080/2240 issues due to my hours already this year. How is this going to effect my salary when 1/3 of my yearly work hours are done Oct-Dec?
 
Voglio-il mio said:
I'll start off by asking if anybody knows how Interim Route Adjustment will be effected by RRECS? I would assume that most of the charts we currently use will no longer be accurate due to the way calculations will be done in the future!




I currently require just over 13 boxes new boxes or lost boxes to change my evaluation by 1 hour! With all of these changes in how to calculate our evaluation I would assume the above attachments are all useless! So how and when will we be compensated for growth and will we have to wait a year for it to show up in our paycheck?
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RRECS is a fluid evaluation system. It’s a rolling average of the boxes you serviced on your route and not how many boxes you have. Unlike the traditional evaluation where the number of boxes are fixed.

Our pay will be based on mini counts throughout the year to reflect current trend as some has suggested here.
 
WestCoastRural said:
RRECS is a fluid evaluation system. It’s a rolling average of the boxes you serviced on your route and not how many boxes you have. Unlike the traditional evaluation where the number of boxes are fixed.

Our pay will be based on mini counts throughout the year to reflect current trend as some has suggested here.
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I'm uncertain, but the discussion was for "mini counts" and adjustments anywhere from one month to one year. Undecided as to time frame as of yet, I believe. Or, they just haven't disclosed it to us.
 
Old Fart said:
I'm uncertain, but the discussion was for "mini counts" and adjustments anywhere from one month to one year. Undecided as to time frame as of yet, I believe. Or, they just haven't disclosed it to us.
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After all these years of gathering data, I am pretty sure they know how many “mini counts “ we’ll have. They haven’t disclosed yet.
 
The last I heard our evaluations would be updated once or maybe twice a year. That being said if I have a thirty apartment complex being built on my route does that mean that I will be delivering to it for free for six to twelve months once they start renting? Now do you get the point of my concern?
 
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WestCoastRural said:
After all these years of gathering data, I am pretty sure they know how many “mini counts “ we’ll have. They haven’t disclosed yet.
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They got so much data, they don't know what to do with it.

If we had a real union, they would trying to get this crap going, but again with this union they won't. When we are still constantly delivering over the evaluated packages for a route.

It takes rocket scientist to figure out something a 1st grader knows.
 
Here’s an example of how we will be screwed.
Today had those nonbendable apparatuses, which in a normal count Are considered parcels. I asked the person in charge today how many of those she included in my parcel Count that she inputs into the computer for volume. She said none. I said those are parcels and they need to be counted. 45. So how does all this miscellaneous stuff that’s not counted not scanned get put into our data?
 
My "guess" would be take it to the door WITH your scanner. At least, you get some walking distance / time. If I recall correctly, 233 feet currently make one minute. With RRECS, it is 50 feet. Also, as of now, we are NOT required to go to the door with a parcel IF it will fit in the mailbox or parcel locker. Additionally, we are , as of now, NOT required to go to the door with a flat . Unless, it is special service and then that makes it an accountable piece of mail and not a flat. I can see all that walking around and fixing things in the morning , which we all do on a DAILY basis, coming to a halt real quick because they gotta' pay us for it.
 
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How about fully addressed carrier routed walk sequence flats that are digitally measured and presumed bundled and in sequence but arrived at the delivery unit in tubs in no order. Or 50 inches of raw f’ing machinable letters, like I got today. No recourse and no further compensation.

F’ing plant.
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DPS REVIEW !!!!
 
I know. I get so tired of mail that looks like a chimpanzee took one of those whisk egg beaters and went through a bucket with it. Also, the PO gives the mailers a break in price to have the mail in walk sequence and then the PO squanders that discount by paying people to bust open bundles and run them on some rickety machine or just hover a helicopter over the whole mess and scoop it up and give it the carriers. What many do not realize is that our standards, as pathetic as they are, are BASED upon mail being faced, right side up, going one way, etc. Sure, there will be the occasional piece that is out of whack but not the whole lot. I have had many days where I actually turned my DPS tray upside down into another tray and THEN I had more mail that was right side up.
 
neciat said:
I know. I get so tired of mail that looks like a chimpanzee took one of those whisk egg beaters and went through a bucket with it. Also, the PO gives the mailers a break in price to have the mail in walk sequence and then the PO squanders that discount by paying people to bust open bundles and run them on some rickety machine or just hover a helicopter over the whole mess and scoop it up and give it the carriers. What many do not realize is that our standards, as pathetic as they are, are BASED upon mail being faced, right side up, going one way, etc. Sure, there will be the occasional piece that is out of whack but not the whole lot. I have had many days where I actually turned my DPS tray upside down into another tray and THEN I had more mail that was right side up.
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accurate and pertinent comments. We all know our mail is so far from perfect as it's supposed to be for evaluation or RRECS.

DeJoy had focus on distribution effectiveness and efficiency, in which the end result was elimination of so many of the issues we face where the mail is so far from "perfect" as is the basis for our counts and compensation. That's history. The operations and distribution leaders resisted even the slightest change, as there might be a job eliminated, or someone would actually be held accountable for errors. No way. Can't happen. So work slowdowns, maybe even sabotage rumored, to force a halt to any change.

We have so many flats, coverages all broken down into random working flats so the clerks have to sort by route, and carriers have to case as raw instead of it all being bundled in sequence. "WSS" flats are tornadoed into tubs upside down, backwards, out of any resemblance of order. This creates LOTS more work for postal employees, at plants, for clerks, for carriers. Same volume, more work, the post office goal of doing the same or less work with more people.

Nobody has the power, courage, or leadership to make changes. We will go the same course, hoping for Congressional money to come raining into post office coffers. We have to make the best of what we've got.
 
@Old Fart I know. I have talked with so many Postmasters regarding this that I have lost count. As you know, it really only matters to them when it affects their HOURLY employees. EAS figures the rural side can just suck it up. But when there aren't the budget hours for the clerks to hand work all that mail and the city side has to wait and case all of that stuff...............that's when it hits home. Plus, all the collateral damage of the overtime and V - time for those employees as well as ALL carriers leaving later than usual which means returning later than usual and it's a dumpster fire. Not to mention that when the clerks are working full crab cages of mail, the window is short staffed and then you fail a shop and that's a no no. No gold star for you today !!!
 
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