POLL: New Contract VOTE!!!!
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DB.Cooper
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Okay, I voted... I'm thinking of voting YES for the 1st time in over 20 years... I've always voted NO before.... but now, I'm eyeballing the exit door and would just like to see it get settled before I head out the door... not saying it's a great contract, or anything like that tho...
gerl2
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Awsome that just means it will be defeated, thanks for giving us a legg up. I also will be going soon but still voting no because I just don't see this creating anything better for anyone.Okay, I voted... I'm thinking of voting YES for the 1st time in over 20 years... I've always voted NO before.... but now, I'm eyeballing the exit door and would just like to see it get settled before I head out the door... not saying it's a great contract, or anything like that tho...
Also you will get your pay eventually and think of it as a surprising bonus in a few years.
too many yrs left
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I'm further behind you, next year, but what is it that makes you think this would be better settled before you leave?? I guess just the retroactive increases? I guess I would like to make sure I got those too.
DB.Cooper
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Yes, it looks like THOUSANDS of $$$ dollars in backpay and COLAs, etc... be nice to get that all caught up before heading out the door....
DB.Cooper
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Not sure how long you've been around, but some of the past contracts were real stinkers.... so, the good news with this contract, is there's no real ugly issues, other than the BIG unknown of RRECS.... that obviously could turn out to be a real stinker tho...
DB.Cooper
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I'm still sorta on the fence.... I may keep my voting record clean with one last NO vote....
gerl2
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Been around probably just as long as you, I am aware of the circumstances of 2012, I am also aware of new things we can take into arbitration. How can you say that the vacation of 60 days or bringing a note into mommy or daddy to show that you have a life event is a good thing? To me, this is a violation of our privacy. Not to mention the Hitler's that our running this Organization NRLCA that can't even let members voice their concerns is an atrocity. I don't like when people shut out our first amendment.Not sure how long you've been around, but some of the past contracts were real stinkers.... so, the good news with this contract, is there's no real ugly issues, other than the BIG unknown of RRECS.... that obviously could turn out to be a real stinker tho...
the 60 day limitation and no mail count provision if RRECS failsOkay.... all you NO voters... you're free to state your case and reasons for voting NO... js.... why do you think it's so lame????
DB.Cooper
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In principle, the 60 day issue is funked up.. . For me personally tho, I've really never had a problem getting leave or time off when I needed it... and obviously, as I'm heading out the door, it's not a big issue for me...
DB.Cooper
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At one time, as stated in the original MOU.... there was supposed to be a mailcount preceding the implementation of RRECS... seems maybe they're gonna skip that....
gerl2
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Yes, the way this whole contract is set up is obvious to that and it will not be in our favor cause a lot of information will be missing. The way the contract is being set up is going to be a lack of RCA's what better way to control that is if they managed to put us all H routes somehow some way, could that be the lack of information for RRECKs, as stated many times I smell a skunk.At one time, as stated in the original MOU.... there was supposed to be a mailcount preceding the implementation of RRECS... seems maybe they're gonna skip that....
Guin
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60 day leave leaves to much room for abuse by management and carriers with seniority.Okay.... all you NO voters... you're free to state your case and reasons for voting NO... js.... why do you think it's so lame????
Raise for rcas is a joke
Rrecs as far as I can tell has no way to be audited/contested by the carrier.
Would also like to point out that the leave policy introduced for this contract has been consistently introduced at both state and national levels and been consistently shot down. So this is the union taking advantage of the fact that the base can not speak for themselves through state and national level voting, due to covid, and shoving what they feel we should have down our throats then hiding behind the fear of arbitration to force it into being. This is in part why I am so angry about this contract.
FrozenToes
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Ronnie stated that carriers were not happy with the current leave procedures. Who knows where he obtained this info.
Leave is already abused by management. File,file,file..
Leave is sometimes abused by carriers filling out leave slips way out in advance. Right now it's a race to whomever fills out the slip first.
What do you suggest for leave procedures?
stillfirstclass
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amen
DB.Cooper
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I see a couple of trends developing, and one way or another, they're likely to happen regardless.... control over leave is being tightened.... and it'll be even harder to get, especially in light of RCAs now also having leave... 2nd, they're seeking additional flexibility to send RCAs all the hail over the place.... now to include reducing DACA 5 & 3 payments... soon it may not only be RCAs, but Regs as well.... and these are not good things in many way.... as I head out the door, you all know, that I'll be bidding you a, SEE YA, SURE WOULDN'T WANNA BE YA!!!! 
