RRECS Interim Worksheet

[U caught my attention]

So I wonder, are parcels divided per box within the vf. So, if I divide my parcels into my boxes then that result multiplied by a random number of boxes ( 20 boxes) would give me so many parcels? Is how I ssid that the way its happening?

 

[ThankU4 Your Service!]

The interim worksheets are essentially plug-in play, you plug in for example how many homes you’re removing from R1 and adding that to R2, including miles and TCP points, etc. and it auto calculates. It doesn’t know what you’re moving. Only the adjuster does so it’s a luck of the draw if you have the areas with the volume or if you lose areas that have high volume.

 

[jsthere723]

Each box does not have a value which is why the routes being adjusted up or down are being “frozen”. If they could use a value then it wouldn’t be an issue at the MMS for the next 2.

Right . People still engaged in same circular argument. If PO was storing data by each address , we would not have any need to revert to this old fashioned adjustment process ( although added some RRECS specific metrix for calculation) —- the data would transfer seamlessly, no need of evaluation freezing . Life would be peachy.
Since the individual value of a box cannot be determined with the data storing system they implemented they have to go by the routes with average . It wouldn’t be perfect .

 

[U caught my attention]

Is this a mathematically correct way to look at parcel exchange within the vf?

800 addresses
100 total parcels delivered between door and box on the 4241

100÷800=.125 parcels per box?

If we move 100 boxes to another route, the paper eval will consider 12.5 parcel volume moved because this is the parcel volume supposedly contained in the average vf.

 

[jsthere723]

Is this a mathematically correct way to look at parcel exchange within the vf?

800 addresses
100 total parcels delivered between door and box on the 4241

100÷800=.125 parcels per box?

If we move 100 boxes to another route, the paper eval will consider 12.5 parcel volume moved because this is the parcel volume supposedly contained in the average vf.

No . This is not perfect . This is what old fashioned adjustment process adheres to to . By the way , did anybody claim it is perfect ?

 

[U caught my attention]

No . This is not perfect . This is what old fashioned adjustment process adheres to to . By the way , did anybody claim it is perfect ?

Ok. I get it's not perfect, I just want to know if I figured it right.

I have a tally of the parcels in the section I donated. Through the tally numbers, I can get a basic percentage the section contributes to the whole. Through that percentage I figured how many off my 4241 are from that particular section. I think I actually might be ok. I also donated a less valuable section. The heavy hitter section combine with the less heavy section might balance out.

Maybe we should consider doing current parcel survey in potential donor areas so carriers can get a grasp on what they current deliver vs how the interim Worksheet adjusts. just a thought. Since CWE isn't a thing.

 

[jsthere723]

Ok. I get it's not perfect, I just want to know if I figured it right.

I have a tally of the parcels in the section I donated. Through the tally numbers, I can get a basic percentage the section contributes to the whole. Through that percentage I figured how many off my 4241 are from that particular section. I think I actually might be ok. I also donated a less valuable section. The heavy hitter section combine with the less heavy section might balance out.

Maybe we should consider doing current parcel survey in potential donor areas so carriers can get a grasp on what they current deliver vs how the interim Worksheet adjusts. just a thought. Since CWE isn't a thing.

Yes , that’s the intended result of averaging in old system. Never perfect but works close enough. I am glad finally you have some real grasp of reality. I have been trying to tell you longest of time that you will be fine

 

[U caught my attention]

Yes , that’s the intended result of averaging in old system. Never perfect but works close enough. I am glad finally you have some real grasp of reality. I have been trying to tell you longest of time that you will be fine

Sorry, if I exacerbated the issue.
I just wasn't seeing it. I had to work through the details to see how it plays out.
It's all good now. Carry on

 

[Augsburg]

Am I the only one? My route let's say 272 cbu's got territory from 2 routes one with 136 cbus and another route with zero cbu's. My cov% was 60% central the other had 32% central and the last had 0% my average central cov % is now 31% .. shouldn't it be 46% since the one route had no cbu's ? Stuuuuuuuupid postal math. (It actually should be 51% because 2/3 of the total central boxes came from my route @ 60% but I'm just doing the bare minimum stats)

Just like the Carter day of mourning. The RADAR report had 0's for everything that day. It should've been blank like a Sunday/holiday.

hate to dox myself (not really) so someone pass a resolution that states that there are to be no 0's in any report. If it wasn't carried just leave it blank. And don't count the day in the average. If there are 301 working days, my route sat for 5 days the average should be for 296 days.
Fact: U$P$ hires idiots to do the math so we get screwed.

 

[johnwayne]

Right . People still engaged in same circular argument. If PO was storing data by each address , we would not have any need to revert to this old fashioned adjustment process ( although added some RRECS specific metrix for calculation) —- the data would transfer seamlessly, no need of evaluation freezing . Life would be peachy.
Since the individual value of a box cannot be determined with the data storing system they implemented they have to go by the routes with average . It wouldn’t be perfect .

do you actually trust that the po doesnt have information for every box? I would think between the pictures they take of the dps, and the logs they keep for packages, they could come up with a pretty good idea.

 

[jsthere723]

do you actually trust that the po doesnt have information for every box? I would think between the pictures they take of the dps, and the logs they keep for packages, they could come up with a pretty good idea.

No they don’t . That’s why they are messing up effecting people. Some people working for free and few are getting paid without work as a result.

 

[U caught my attention]

Some people working for free and few are getting paid without work as a result.

But that's the point of the evaluated system. Real current wages are not what matters. We ARE getting paid.....its just what your individual hourly rate is. There is no one working for free and no one getting paid without working. Individual hourly rates just fluctuate depending on volume handled.
Either you have more volume or less volume than the previous 52 weeks.
We get the evaluation $ paid to us regardless of how long it takes....we simply adjust our pace, or we don't, in order to compensate. In my mind, USPS safety and procedure determine how much we actually can adjust pace. So, how is this system fair if we are fighting current route volume to get equal pay?

 

[Augsburg]

But that's the point of the evaluated system. Real current wages are not what matters. We ARE getting paid.....its just what your individual hourly rate is. There is no one working for free and no one getting paid without working. Individual hourly rates just fluctuate depending on volume handled.
Either you have more volume or less volume than the previous 52 weeks.
We get the evaluation $ paid to us regardless of how long it takes....we simply adjust our pace, or we don't, in order to compensate. In my mind, USPS safety and procedure determine how much we actually can adjust pace. So, how is this system fair if we are fighting current route volume to get equal pay?

Except for the folks with overburdened routes that have no aux assistance. Evaluated at 70+ hours a week. My office had that route over 3 years of working for free. Now people who have natural growth but are stuck at a lower tier pay. Because management doesn't know how to add boxes. Maybe they'll get backpay ? But for now they work for free. Not all day but if your evaluated pay is less than the work you produce... that's wage theft. That's what we mean when we say working for free.