More packages than any Christmas day last year
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calimailman
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Same here. Somedays there's everything and some absolutely nothing.
What's ticking me off is the fake postage parcels we deliver. I get more than 1 a day.
Do we even get credit for it? Obviously the PO doesn't get $ for it, but we are told to deliver it anyway.
What a mess.
What's ticking me off is the fake postage parcels we deliver. I get more than 1 a day.
Do we even get credit for it? Obviously the PO doesn't get $ for it, but we are told to deliver it anyway.
What a mess.
She mails rural
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You know they are going to say we can't help the volume of mail and when it arrives. I say proof is in the numbers collected everyday! Oh wait them numbers are never accurate ether, hummmm darn to bad for us again!
Mainly paper mail being insane here, parcels have always been bad Monday. 2 days of our own and 3 days of ups, dhl drop off. Saturday they are always late to drop off parcels and they drop off Sundays, Monday they are at dock by 7 am…. 4 door to door yesterday came from plant. It was fun so much fun….
Rural-life-0323
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What is the manipulation part? Eventually you get paid for both of those if you're on your route long enough. Both of those will factor in 50% after the next survey and you'll be paid the full value 2 survey's from now. I'm confused by the OP ...
What was manipulated 100% is the amount of inverted letters and missorted mail. I've never seen DPS as clean as it was for those two week and that's what mattered during the survey so I'm confused by the post. The survey is what the union needs to fight (but is to weak).
That being said, UPS shipments not resuming until about a month before the survey means we are all delivering those unpaid right now since those numbers are not in any of our pay at the moment. On that same note, we were all being paid extra for volume we weren't getting while UPS stopped using us. Unless you are retiring soon, again I don't understand the manipulation part here.
No one wanted to boot Don because we were "in the middle of negotiations". Well guess what is starting again. Negotiations! Well played Don! Well played.
What was manipulated 100% is the amount of inverted letters and missorted mail. I've never seen DPS as clean as it was for those two week and that's what mattered during the survey so I'm confused by the post. The survey is what the union needs to fight (but is to weak).
That being said, UPS shipments not resuming until about a month before the survey means we are all delivering those unpaid right now since those numbers are not in any of our pay at the moment. On that same note, we were all being paid extra for volume we weren't getting while UPS stopped using us. Unless you are retiring soon, again I don't understand the manipulation part here.
No one wanted to boot Don because we were "in the middle of negotiations". Well guess what is starting again. Negotiations! Well played Don! Well played.
Manipulation is the packages. If these packages showed up properly, I would take more trips to house each day. Instead of taking 3 packages at once in one day, I would take 2 one day and 1 another day. Depending on the driveway length and everything else, I could losing bunch of time. Constantly getting 20-30 packages for a day then getting 150-250 packages several days later. You just can't tell me all of a sudden a random day in April I get more packages than ANY SINGLE DAY I HAD DURING LAST CHRISTMAS!!!
Explain to me getting 20-30 packages a day several days in a row then 220 one day. It is 100% manipulation.
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jaymacgthree
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Amazon agreed you'd be getting 20% less! 
Dominator
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Give them to the clerks for postage due values, then get the credit for handling postage due parcels.
Dominator
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Are you also getting roulette-style address spreads in subdivisions?
- High number addresses one day followed by low number addresses the next?
- Even number addresses one day followed by odd number addresses the next?
- Depart side of the street one day followed by return side of the street the next?
afk tornado
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I get so much on Mondays. So much. Most of it is not Amazon, but cheap Shein and Whatnot imports. Dozens and dozens of them. And then the rest of the week, hardly any. 230-240 on Mondays, 70-90 the rest of the week. Amazon is hit or miss anymore. I kind of see the patterns Dominator just outlined. Neighborhood by neighborhood rather than street by street for me.
Honestly I think it just whatever the plant feels like doing work, which seems to be about every 2 weeks. Won't be anything for 2 weeks. Then a week will be everything. There is some days like front part of my route gets more than the back. But when you get 20-40 packages for days then get hit with 210 in one day. CLEARLY SOMETHING IS GETTING MANIPULATED!
Amazon wise it rotates daily between first half and second half of route. It works that way for every route in office. UPS, dhl are always middle of route furthest points out on my route. It’s a wash overall similar dismounts daily due to parcels I’m not stressing it. Coverage factor is what is the part that worries me, if we didn’t get as many wss or boxholders we do it would be bad.
Rural-life-0323
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So the fact that people who waited to file their tax at the last minute were recently paid and ordering stuff has nothing to do with this? My volume increases every year around this time. Especially when Amazon can't handle their volume. I guess when we see an increase around Mother's day next month that will also be manipulation?
I agree a jump from 20-30 to 150-250 is a large leap but it happens sometimes. The part that strikes me as weird is the 20-30 a day. I'm in a smaller office but I have never seen any route even close to that low before. Tell me you're excluding SPR's ...
happening on my route too.
just because it's not happening in your area doesn't mean it isn't happening.
if i didn't know better, i would be of the opinion that @ATCBigE and i were in the same area.
last thursday i had 10 packages.
10.
friday about 30.
saturday 190.
make it make sense.
NOPE. Saturday for 6 routes we had 140 packages FOR WHOLE OFFICE. Sub I am borrowing had about 25 packages TOTAL FOR WHOLE ROUTE (ALL PACKAGES)..
Monday We had over 1000 packages which is MORE THAN ANY SINGLE DAY DURING CHRISTMAS. Do you not see the problem? When people are ordering everything in Christmas, a random day in middle of April beats every single day during Christmas???? I understand that volume goes up during tax season, but when you constantly are getting 30-60 packages a day, and then jump up to 210 in 1 day. THERE IS AN ISSUE. Also maybe people should come work a day in my office where you go from finishing at 630 at night because they dumped everything to today when they brought 40ish total packages & ZERO FLATS and I was done at 115.
Yes I understand tax season and packages go up, but yet explain how you go from 20-30 to 210 in 1 day?
My route has been KILLED BY COVERAGE FACTOR and this. Do you not see how it can kill a route like mine? You have house with .9 mile round trip lane and they got 10 packages on 1 day, when several should have been there days before that. So instead of making 2 or 3 trips to the house, you only made 1 trip up the driveway. That is a massive time killer and could hurt coverage if they didn't get stuff that day.
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Exactly.
I understand if a week was like this
Monday 175
Tuesday 60
Wednesday 80
Thursday 100
Friday 75
Saturday 90
Fairly consist
But like last 2 days
Monday 3 full tubs of flats, decent presort, 4 DPS trays, 210 packages 615PM
Tuesday ZERO FLATS 1 tray DPS 50 packages 115PM
I'm seeing the same sort of thing. They have an agenda. The low package days will lower the evaluations. They have it figured out to cut us. On those extra light days are carriers taking them all to the door?
How can we preserve our evaluations with this manipulation by USPS?
Every Monday is now like a day after a Monday Holiday and Saturdays are like a half day.
Yes and look at it this way with packages. If you have multiple days in a row with say 10-40 packages then they dumped 200 on you.
Let's say you have about 5 houses on route that are about 3/4 mile round trip. In previous 2 days you had 0 packages. All of sudden between these 5 houses you have 30 packages, and each house according to tracking was suppose to get a couple packages each day. You just lost out on single trip at least 2 days for each house. This is IMO the new way to manipulate routes.
Honestly I think there is nothing you can do. I ain't changing how I do things because of USPS. I just go in and do the job. I am not stooping as low as USPS.
