three questions regarding X day.

[bobbob]

good evening

can management convert to pay an X day without my consent?

when will the X day expire?(or it automatically convert to being paid or perhaps disappear)

if mandated on my X day but there is a sub working on my route that day, can i put in 2hrs and go home? or whats the proper procedure.

thank you in advance for the help.

 

[ATCBigE]

good evening

can management convert to pay an X day without my consent?

when will the X day expire?(or it automatically convert to being paid or perhaps disappear)

if mandated on my X day but there is a sub working on my route that day, can i put in 2hrs and go home? or whats the proper procedure.

thank you in advance for the help.

I'll answer the first two questions for you.

#1 They can convert it without if the X day has gone over the limits of the contract. You have 12 weeks to use them in the normal period of the year. Once gurantee time period starts, you have to use them in the SAME PAY PERIOD!!!

#2 Again depends on when you earn it. This photo should help you out. It shows you when you have to use your X day based on when you earned. NOW it isn't always right because there can be 27 pay periods but this should help you out.



#3 Not sure I get what you are saying 100%.

 

[bobbob]

I'll answer the first two questions for you.

#1 They can convert it without if the X day has gone over the limits of the contract. You have 12 weeks to use them in the normal period of the year. Once gurantee time period starts, you have to use them in the SAME PAY PERIOD!!!

#2 Again depends on when you earn it. This photo should help you out. It shows you when you have to use your X day based on when you earned. NOW it isn't always right because there can be 27 pay periods but this should help you out.

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#3 Not sure I get what you are saying 100%.

thank you. but where can i get that photo you got? i cant see it clearly. it gets pixelated when i zoom it.


on my case i have accumulated x days, i used some and i kept on gaining some again. but in my scenario, they just took my recent x day gain.
for example
PP 5 i have three banked Xdays. gained two and used two.
PP 6 gained another two Xdays and used two.
PP 7 gained two Xdays and used one.(they took my Xday on this pay period, got extra payment but i cant find it on my paystub how they magically did it).
PP 8 only one banked Xday left.

those banked Xdays i have from PP5 been there prolly 5-6 pay period ago
ill be calling my rep about it. but i just want another opinion incase i get different answer from my rep.

 

[ATCBigE]

thank you. but where can i get that photo you got? i cant see it clearly. it gets pixelated when i zoom it.


on my case i have accumulated x days, i used some and i kept on gaining some again. but in my scenario, they just took my recent x day gain.
for example
PP 5 i have three banked Xdays. gained two and used two.
PP 6 gained another two Xdays and used two.
PP 7 gained two Xdays and used one.(they took my Xday on this pay period, got extra payment but i cant find it on my paystub how they magically did it).
PP 8 only one banked Xday left.

those banked Xdays i have from PP5 been there prolly 5-6 pay period ago
ill be calling my rep about it. but i just want another opinion incase i get different answer from my rep.

I can get better photo. I found it online but I can't find it. I remember finding it.

So in your case, they shouldn't have converted them. X days burn the oldest one first.

So PP5 you had 3. Earned 2 and used 2.
In PP6, you had 3. Earned 2 and used 2. So that means you are in PP 5 of your X day, which means 12 weeks from which would be PP 12.


PP7 would have be to used PP 13 whatever week you earned 1 or 2 week of that pay period.

Something ain't quite right unless you took off another day and they used X day for that.

 

[neciat]

Here's some info from Article 9 of The Nat'l Agreement ;

f. Except as provided in item j. below, regular rural carriers on the relief day work list who work the relief day will select one of the following options:
(1) An X day (a day for working a prior relief day) to be immediately scheduled by mutual agreement between the carrier and the Employer. The scheduled X day must be within the next twelve (12) weeks. PS Form 3971 will be completed for the mutually agreed X day and the scheduled X day will be given the same consideration as approved annual leave.
(2) Compensation at 50% of the carrier’s daily rate of pay, in addition to receiving an X day within twelve (12) weeks as scheduled by the Employer.
(3) Compensation at 150% of the carrier’s daily rate of pay. The carrier will not receive an X day

g. Except as provided in item below, regular rural carriers not on the relief day work list who are
required to work the relief day will receive compensation at 50% of the carrier’s daily rate of pay, in addition to receiving an X day within twelve (12) weeks as scheduled by the Employer

Here is the "j" that is referred to in the above ;

j. Without recourse to Article 8.5, the Employer may allow a regular rural carrier to work on his or her
relief day in order to grant the leave replacement scheduled to serve the regular’s route, the day off

k. During the period that starts with the beginning of the guarantee period through the end of the designated Christmas period, a regular rural carrier who
works the relief day and is entitled to an X day must be given the X day as scheduled by the Employer within the same pay period in which the relief day was worked. Regular rural carriers shall be prohibited from scheduling a previously earned X
day from the beginning of the guarantee period through the end of the designated Christmas period. If the X day is not received within the same pay
period, the Employer will compensate the regular
rural carrier 100% of the carrier’s daily rate of pay in lieu of the X day

l. If, for any reason, an X day is not received within the twelve-week period in accordance with Sub-sections f.(2) and g. above, the Employer will compensate the regular rural carrier 100% of the
carrier’s daily rate of pay in lieu of an X day. The period from the beginning of the guarantee period through the end of the designated Christmas period is not included when counting the twelve weeks in which an X day must be received

 

[bobbob]

I can get better photo. I found it online but I can't find it. I remember finding it.

So in your case, they shouldn't have converted them. X days burn the oldest one first.

So PP5 you had 3. Earned 2 and used 2.
In PP6, you had 3. Earned 2 and used 2. So that means you are in PP 5 of your X day, which means 12 weeks from which would be PP 12.


PP7 would have be to used PP 13 whatever week you earned 1 or 2 week of that pay period.

Something ain't quite right unless you took off another day and they used X day for that.

i ddnt took another Xday. i have been saving it this month so i can have a week day off. since i kept working on my Xday. i already have an approved leave for that day. and i dont have AL nor SL banked. i dont want that LWOP.

for filing grievance what should be the wording for that by a chance?

 

[ivorysprocket727]

good evening

can management convert to pay an X day without my consent?

when will the X day expire?(or it automatically convert to being paid or perhaps disappear)

if mandated on my X day but there is a sub working on my route that day, can i put in 2hrs and go home? or whats the proper procedure.

thank you in advance for the help.

The sub working the route doesn't turn it into a two-hour day, payroll still has to be coded right. X-days are one of those things that sound simple until management starts moving them around.

 

[damifiknow]

x days are a rural carrier scam take the cash

 

[bobbob]

x days are a rural carrier scam take the cash

if you dont have a sub in your office. we have subs but not quite enough. i have been using Xdays to my advantage. its just this one time that happened.