load vehicle and end of shift deems list

[jsthere723]

Yeah no this is blatent bs and is what the load truck feature is for. Any rural carrier saying what you are saying doesnt actually have interest in whats best for the craft.

You can do whatever you want , but what he said is hundred percent right . You do the sequencing out side of the load time . Every package has a sorting credit —- you are already paid . Load truck feature is for putting the packages in sections.

 

[Rt2mailman]

The load truck feature is to aid the carrier in loading parcels, it does tell us the sector of the truck to place the parcel in, it also tells us the SEQUENCE of each parcel. Why does it tell us the sequence of the parcel if it doesn't expect us to use that sequence number WHILE WE ARE LOADING?
There is nothing anywhere, contract nor Rrecs guide that forbids parcels being loaded in sequential order. In fact, as posted above, we are directed to place parcels in sequential order in our PO603. Only a manager would say that we can't SEQUENCE our parcels. Managers do read and watch internet posts. That's why the beep that every 5 minutes goes off during our EOS time now can NOT be limited by moving the scanner to "Do you want to log off".
If you can find "Binding language" that says carriers can NOT sequence parcels while on load time please produce it. We've already seen the PO603 language that says we SHOULD place our parcels in sequential order to help in delivery, when else would we sequence them if not in load time?
If your saying we should sequence them in the office, then why would we need to know the vehicle sector if we already had them in sequential order?
"Load truck" is specifically designed to aid carriers in placing parcels in ORDER in their vehicles. It tells us the sector verbally and shows the sequential number on the screen. Why else would it bother showing the sequential order except to help us SEQUENCE our parcels.

 

[Missed a scan]

The load truck feature is to aid the carrier in loading parcels, it does tell us the sector of the truck to place the parcel in, it also tells us the SEQUENCE of each parcel. Why does it tell us the sequence of the parcel if it doesn't expect us to use that sequence number WHILE WE ARE LOADING?
There is nothing anywhere, contract nor Rrecs guide that forbids parcels being loaded in sequential order. In fact, as posted above, we are directed to place parcels in sequential order in our PO603. Only a manager would say that we can't SEQUENCE our parcels. Managers do read and watch internet posts. That's why the beep that every 5 minutes goes off during our EOS time now can NOT be limited by moving the scanner to "Do you want to log off".
If you can find "Binding language" that says carriers can NOT sequence parcels while on load time please produce it. We've already seen the PO603 language that says we SHOULD place our parcels in sequential order to help in delivery, when else would we sequence them if not in load time?
If your saying we should sequence them in the office, then why would we need to know the vehicle sector if we already had them in sequential order?
"Load truck" is specifically designed to aid carriers in placing parcels in ORDER in their vehicles. It tells us the sector verbally and shows the sequential number on the screen. Why else would it bother showing the sequential order except to help us SEQUENCE our parcels.

Some people can't wait to be paid the lowest amount possible.

 

[Old Fart]

You can do whatever you want , but what he said is hundred percent right . You do the sequencing out side of the load time . Every package has a sorting credit —- you are already paid . Load truck feature is for putting the packages in sections.

The "credit" you get for load time is only for the number of scans, as I understand it.

 

[jsthere723]

The "credit" you get for load time is only for the number of scans, as I understand it.

I am not sure what you mean . Number of scan ? No . Actual time used for scanning to find the section where in the truck you would throw the package in the truck ? Yes

 

[Rogtar]

The "credit" you get for load time is only for the number of scans, as I understand it.

Load truck itself has no time. It can, however, be accessed during STARTLOADVEH whereas last year, or so, it could not. If you are spending extra time using Load Truck during STARTLOADVEH, which could not be done before, you are spending additional time verifying your possession of the parcel and then sequencing it as per the po-603. The RRECS guide states there is credit already applied for loading it, retroactively based on your delivery style of that barcode. Nothing speaks to writing on them, which is where the auditors keep wacking people on. Weird tactic, but the only thing they can honestly defend without reproach to reduce times.

What it all means is that everyone is right, and everyone is wrong, and until all the features and books and manuals not only become public but also rewritten to align, this issue will not be laid to rest. Lots of blame to go around: the engineers for designing load credit, the programmers for adding Load Truck to a feature it wasn't present for, USPS for not updating manuals, the union fir not fighting harder against haphazard implementation, carriers for misusing and abusing, management for not knowing what to do, management for being terrible at their jobs, the list goes on.

 

[Rural-life-0323]

We've already seen the PO603 language that says we SHOULD place our parcels in sequential order to help in delivery, when else would we sequence them if not in load time?

The confusion lies in the PO 603 223.23 where it tells us we have to put small parcels in order on office time at the case and then we must mark our mail for larger items either by turning a letter backwards, using a marker or using some other method that tells us we have a large parcel.

OK so we are allowed to put the large parcels in sequential order into the truck, marked with the sequence number and put them in the truck by sectors, but what was cannot do is stand there sorting our small parcels in sequence order while on load time or put markers in our mail on load time for the large. That is simply an office function and that time is already calculated. That's why there is an additional credit when your parcel go over a certain amount of parcels in a day.

Load time is only to be used to load the vehicle so most of the sorting is already done on office time. Even the RRECS language is fairly clear that once we have things done, we're only loading the truck.

The gray area is you can scan the large/odd-sized items on load time. It says sector 2 you can write the sequence number down (to milk the time or for subs) and then place the item in sector 2. Lets say sequence number 105. Then you scan the next item and it's sequence 102 in the same sector. You can place it in the vehicle in front of 105. That's not an issue because you are loading the truck and putting it in order as you go per the PO 603. The issue I see all the time is carriers scan everything at the truck on load time and then throw them into on large pile and then sort them into the truck still on load time. That's not allowed. You sort and sequence the large parcels/odd sized as you go.

The other gray area is like me with apartments. I'm allowed to not sort anything at the case and then sort my parcels into tubs directly into the vehicle so long as I'm not then putting them all in order on load time, since sequential sorting was required before I started load time. Large parcels yes.

No one's trying to screw the craft over. People are trying to point out the policy in case you get caught or to try prevent it going that far.