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Assigned Route & 6 day work week

and we wonder why during time study we ended up with 86 pieces of dps for a minutes pay.. do we cry or laugh?:(
My scenario isn't applicable to your implication that it contributes to some unwarranted "bump". I'm not talking about "running" to be "faster" at the expense of expected professional accuracy and customer service. I'm talking about being even more efficient and focused on those 4 days to finish 10s of minutes earlier...no BSing around the office, unecessary route conversations, and having a purposefully quicker transition from one task to the next; and most definitely annotating all the minutes that I am idle. Talk to the OTC gang and slob runners about the 86 per.
 
My solution with your scheduling scenario, was to work faster and take 30 minute lunches on the 4 x 9 hr route days, and finish within 20-30 minutes on the 5 x 9 hr route days...lunch time adjusted as necessary, but at least 10 minutes. Call it gaming or what you will...money talks back.

This is falsifying documents PLUS it makes it look like you’re working faster than you actually are. Once RRECS starts after mapping, this won’t be as easy to do.
 
I didn't watch the clock, it was instinctive. Annotating actual time not working is the opposite of falsifying a time sheet. You posed a dilemma of being too + or - 40 hours and paying for it. My answer was to adjust your work rate, not work ethic.
 
I didn't watch the clock, it was instinctive. Annotating actual time not working is the opposite of falsifying a time sheet. You posed a dilemma of being too + or - 40 hours and paying for it. My answer was to adjust your work rate, not work ethic.
Not writing down time you are actually working is falsifying & working off the clock. Putting down breaks or lunches is falsifying & working off the clock.
All of this shortens your reported work day & shows PO that the tasks do not take as long to accomplish as we say during negotiations.
 
This is falsifying documents PLUS it makes it look like you’re working faster than you actually are. Once RRECS starts after mapping, this won’t be as easy to do.
Focus here! How much time do you think I sat waiting with red card in hand waiting for mail to be called up on an overly efficient morning. Not the truck or clerk's fault, so yep, I added it to lunch/break time. Any more pronouncements?
 
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Focus here! How much time do you think I sat waiting with red card in hand waiting for mail to be called up on an overly efficient morning. Not the truck or clerk's fault, so yep, I added it to lunch/break time. Any more more pronouncements?
That’s waiting time & should be documented as such... assuming you weren’t eating off the Red Card plate in the break-room.
 
Not writing down time you are actually working is falsifying & working off the clock. Putting down breaks or lunches is falsifying & working off the clock.
All of this shortens your reported work day & shows PO that the tasks do not take as long to accomplish as we say during negotiations.
Where did I say that I wrote down time that didn't accurately depict work or breaks conducted. You're applying cookie cutter, cliche, stereotype, time sheet mantra. The start time was locked, the end time was when I pulled the light chain, the break/lunch time was any and all accumulated nonwork minutes.
 
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That’s waiting time & should be documented as such... assuming you weren’t eating off the Red Card plate in the break-room.
I take that time for break, trying not to think about the mail or postal products of course. Wouldn't want to be considered as working off the clock by thinking about them. So what's your threshold in filing for wait time...5,10 minutes?
 
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I take that time for break, trying not to think about the mail or postal products of course. Wouldn't want to be considered as working off the clock by thinking about them. So what's your threshold in filing for wait time...5,10 minutes?
I come in later so I don’t have “wait time”. Too much “waiting” & mgmt can adjust the start times.
The Carriers in my office that are “waiting” are usually chatting, laughing, & walking around. I suspect they come In earlier than they should & It’s become a big distraction to some Carriers & Clerks who are working.
 
Ok, had a similar conversation yesterday with our aux carrier. She says no matter how many hours she goes over 40 on aux route she only gets paid the eval. It's route assistance that puts her into overtime. I disagreed, is she right?

She could be right in that's all she's being paid, but that's a violation of Federal labor law, as well as the contract.

From the contract, Article 9.2.F.2: "When serving on an auxiliary route, substitute rural carriers shall be compensated based on the daily evaluated hours of the route regardless of the number of hours actually worked, unless they work in excess of forty (40) hours in a work week. When the carrier’s total actual work hours exceed forty (40) hours per week, compensation shall be on the basis of hours actually worked in accordance with Article 8.3., attained step, and hours in excess of forty (40) hours per week shall be at the overtime rate pursuant to Section 7(a) of the Fair Labor Standards Act."

This can be a dicey issue to grieve because aux routes are (generally) <40 hours a week so if she's regularly exceeding the eval on the route, she could wind up facing discipline up to removing her from the route for poor work performance. Not saying it's right, but lots of people, including the RCA herself, may be looking the other way so she can keep the aux. This is somewhat common with regular carriers as well who go over 56 hours---everyone involved turns a blind eye so that the route doesn't get cut/they get to keep high option.?‍♀️
 
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I take that time for break, trying not to think about the mail or postal products of course. Wouldn't want to be considered as working off the clock by thinking about them. So what's your threshold in filing for wait time...5,10 minutes?

I have been known to file for 2 minutes.

If you are waiting for mail, it's not a break. Do all route work you can, to include your edit book. After that, it's wait time.

p.s. dusting your case is clerk/janitor work. Don't do it just to fill time.
 
Yes, as a regular, I can always find 15 minutes of constructive work to do at my case. Been able to time it well enough by surveying the mail, parcels, pallets left, etc...when I walk in and apply a corresponding work rate.

Yet when I subbed, as the chronology of posts suggest, subject to hourly, while loaded and ready, waiting for mail to be called, I took a break, form and manner immaterial, and later to be annotated along with any subsequent break time upon signing out.
 
I always ran into the 40.01 scenario as a sub. Although most was PM manipulating. Always some little task on Friday: 2nd trip, late package, express, chew me out for current resident miss deliveries. She tried hard to screw me over.

The PTF in my office was tickeled pink. Worked a 44k 2 weeks straight, 12 days and got like 42 hours a week. Such a hard worker, he just loved that fat paycheck and all the OT?
 
AJ747 -- "Then lately they’ve thrown me on routes blind, always with circulars, 70 to 100 miles and scoff if I’m not back by 5."

-- Let manglement scoff all they want. If they don't like your performance, ask them for pointers or just invite them to carry the route!

-- Be sure you are getting Actual Time if on the route for the first time or if you have not worked the route in over a year.

I never thought about the actual time! Thanks for the tip!
 
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