RRECS: Parcel Time
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Voglio-il mio
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From the past
I realize this is an old thread but, I'm trying to find how barcodes that can't be scanned will be handled. I'm noticing that I'm having quite a few that the numbers must be typed in. Also, our state sends out certified letters that won't scan. Do we have a way to track this time in the new rrecs system? Surely they have additional time for this time consuming task.
Perhaps we're in the same state!
Perhaps this question would be nice to include in the letters being mailed out tomorrow to Duke St.
Feb 29, leap day, is a write in, get their (non-egocentric union elites) attention.
We ask for more information in a timely fashion.
RRECS was supposed to be implemented more than five years ago, yet we still don't know much about it.
This is a tremendous fail by our union.
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No worries fred! I started these threads so we could all share information and ask questions. I (and others) still watch them, so feel free to ask away!
I've never read or heard officially how unscannable codes will be handled. Here is my best guess:
If you look at the 4241-M comparison in the study results, Reference number 15 (Non Signature "Scan" Items):
1) right now we get .3 minutes (18 seconds) per.
2) Under RRECS: "Scans included in standard for Ind pieces." Which really seems to be a sneaky way of cutting scan time w/o showing exactly what the cuts are.
So I imagine they will say "Each piece has time built in for scans. A certain % of scans are expected to be unscannable and that time is included."
If it were me: I'd start tracking and recording how many unscannble codes I get daily. That way I'd at least have some ammunition to try and get a better time. It looks like they are full speed ahead on RRECS, so it may get here sooner than many of us expected...
Sandygirl
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Me and scanner walk to the door, I put package down, scan, hit buttons and only then walk away...
Voglio-il mio
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In another life I used scanners for a different business. In that business they had a program that was built into them that would identify when something was hand typed. In this instance when something was hand typed it would automatically request and generate a new label to replace the one that wouldn't scan. So I think the capabilities to report and get extra time assigned to these situations is available if requested. This is why actual carriers should have been more involved in the RRECS process. We as a group have a wealth of knowledge from outside of the postal service that we can bring to the table!
R38ProMaster
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I have a business on my route that gets a lot of returns. They are scanned by our clerks onto a firm sheet and we have a signature on file at my case that I use to scan them delivered. After reading through all of the posts, I'm questioning this practice. What would be the correct way for delivery? My office has received little to no information on RREC's and I just stumbled across this page today. Thank you in advance!
Welcome to the site! How did you stumble your way here?
I don't have to deal with many return packages, so I have some questions:
1) What is a firm sheet?
2) You scan the packages delivered while you are at you case?
3) Do you then actually deliver the packages, or does the business pick them up at the PO?
I don't know about having "a signature on file" at the case. Never dealt with anything like that, but seems iffy. Hopefully some other carriers can jump in...
I would be following procedure...
PS Form 3883
Currently customers receiving articles recorded on PS Form 3883, Firm Delivery Receipt for Accountable and Bulk Delivery Mail, must sign and print their name on PS Form 3849 in order to electronically link the signature information to the Firm Delivery Receipt, even though PS Form 3883 has a "Received By" block. In the revised PS Form 3883, the "Received By" block (see Exhibit 1) has been removed in accordance with Handbook PO-610, Signature Capture and Electronic Record Management: Manager's Guide to Standard Operating Procedures. Also, standard information on the revised PS Form 3883 has been updated.
PS Form 3883
Currently customers receiving articles recorded on PS Form 3883, Firm Delivery Receipt for Accountable and Bulk Delivery Mail, must sign and print their name on PS Form 3849 in order to electronically link the signature information to the Firm Delivery Receipt, even though PS Form 3883 has a "Received By" block. In the revised PS Form 3883, the "Received By" block (see Exhibit 1) has been removed in accordance with Handbook PO-610, Signature Capture and Electronic Record Management: Manager's Guide to Standard Operating Procedures. Also, standard information on the revised PS Form 3883 has been updated.
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R38ProMaster
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R38ProMaster
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I re-read the information attached above, and I think that is what I'm doing. I guess the biggest question I have is do I scan the signed 3849 at my case or at the business.
flash
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Just curiosity, are you CCA? Mostly city carriers drive pro masters.......
R38ProMaster
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I’m a Rural Carrier, but my route consists of cbu’s and business dismounts. The main reason I have a Promaster is the business that has the returns. Since they are closed on Saturday it isn’t unusual for me to have 200+ parcels for them on Monday.
Haychica
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NOW ur just showing off??
Haychica
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Similar to the possibility of the p.o. renting the boxes out to ups, FedEx, etc...if their stuff is in there, and I have a small med parcel...wellllll...its going to the door
Are you delivering at your case or at the business?
What I was referring to procedure wise was I personally wouldn't be using a pre-signed 3849, but you can always seek the advice of your DR.
I hate having to scan parcel at door to get full credit. No reason we shouldn't be able to scan parcel in vehicle, then dismount with scanner attached to us and deliver to door. Let's say it's pouring down rain, are you going to carry scanne and parcel to door, place parcel down, then scan it. Then it doesn't take the scan and you have to manually input it, and the customer wants to know what the crap is this moron doing? I think most carriers are going to scan these in vehicle, bag if necessary, and take it to door quickly as possible so you don't get soaked. While this is efficient, and good customer service, and the best way to do it, BUT we will once again under this corrupt system called rrecs, not be credited for bagging the parcel, or time dismounted and distance to door even though we did so. So many ways we lose under this system. Keep paying your dues.
flash
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Interesting!
The only left hand driving rural carrier I know about,,, I never stop learning!
There are probably more, I just never knew.... pro master is huge upgrade to an LLV?
Sorry to go off topic, I know nothing about your question but as RRECS is coming, please find out how it would best serve the route and you to getting paid..
