Get out now
- Thread starter Haygrrl
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Unlike say the military, there is no terminal leave provision and management approval is required. Have you told them your intentions yet for an answer? Would be so lame of them to not be agreeable. If dissaproved and wanting to go now, cashing in is your route.
Voglio-il mio
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My Postmaster worked with me when I retired. My last day of working was like 38 working days and 2 Holidays before my retirement date. During those 40 days I was put in for 8 hours of Leave for each day.
After my retirement date I still had enough Annual leave to cash in for another 43 days that were applied to my Terminal Pay. Three of those days were for Holidays that fell within the duration of the Terminal Leave time.
I had planned my departure date (ballpark) years in advance so that on my last year I carried over the Maximum Allowable Hours. At that point I used minimal Annual Leave until I executed the above plan.
Use fmla to get leave approval. You will be paid the sum of your annual and any matching holidays whether you call in to hr tomorrow say you are retired or work. The difference is the hit you would take on the taxes in one check.
Go to your doctor, say you have stress, high blood pressure and are concerned about dying on the job. They will usually give 10-14 days for you sympto relieve. And then, mgmt can't deny leave because they have advanced notice to plan. If your rotator cuff is toast, tell your doctor you plan to immediately retire because you can't take the pain any longer. They will help you with injury paperwork.
Haygrrl
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I'm sorry, I don't know what " cashing in" means.....?
Haygrrl
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My issue, is that rhe oic is denying all leave.
Cash in AL instead of using the leave days. Not as financially beneficial, but I only suggest doing so because you mentioned the desire to leave "NOW".
Charlie Brown
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Like Wilco 183 said, go now. Tell Mgmt. you're done the end of this month either retired or on leave. Ask if they can approve leave until the end of the year. If they won't call HR change your date and go at the end of the month. By not using the annual you wont earn any more sick or annual or get TSP matching money but you'll be gone and you start getting retirement money. You'll get a terminal leave payment for all of your annual and it will include holiday pay for any holidays that if the annual were used would fall into the time period. Any sick leave if more than a few days will be credited to your retirement time. If you only have a few sick days they're basically lost.
You'll be able to enjoy your holidays while the OIC is either carrying your route or scrambling to get someone else to cover it.
You'll be able to enjoy your holidays while the OIC is either carrying your route or scrambling to get someone else to cover it.
Voglio-il mio
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Submit your retirement paperwork to Shared Services stating what your Retirement Effective date will be. Walk into your office the next day telling them that your last working day will be xx/xx/xx and that you will be taking earned Annual Leave from xx/xx/xx until the Actual Retirement Date.
They will need to find someone to replace you at some point anyway so force their hand with a deadline. Problems in finding coverage is theirs, it isn't yours!
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As others have said, save your A/L. When you retire, all earned annual leave will be paid out on your final check. Having gone through the process a few months back myself; you will need the extra money from your annual leave to carry you through the 3 or 4 month process of getting your annuity started.
As to being AWOL, who cares. You are no longer a postal employee when your retirement date is finalized. I used my last few days of sick leave my last 2 weeks of work, and submitted a sick day on my final day, walked in and filled out and left.
Haygrrl
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Doesn't the al have to be approved?.. they're denying all leave
Haygrrl
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My retirement date isn't finalized yet
Haygrrl
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If I leave before my retirement date, Doesn't the al need to be approved? My book was sent in this week but not returned yet..my date is set for Dec 26th, but it's so hostile in our office, I'd like to leave now. They deny all leave slips even with Dr documents or if you're in the hospital
I was eligible without penalty as of Aug 1st but wanted to finish up the year strictly for financial purposes, now, I just want out. Period. So sad
I think I see what you're asking. Being retirement eligable, you can opt for immediate retirement, starting tommorrow even. You don't need approved AL up to a certain date as you won't be using any - all AL will be paid out to you.
As example: you can go in tommorrow morning, grab any personal belongings, hand your badge to management, tell them that yesterday was your last workday, today is your retirement date, and goodbye. That will be your retirement date...it doesn't have to be a date sometime after you submit the book. Your office will carry you as LWOP until processed. This is how you leave NOW without approved leave and retiring at some date down the road.
Alternatively, you can hand in your leave slip first to make it official as Vog described, and if disapproved, tell them you're done, drop badge, etc...and opt for Immediate Retirement.
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Voglio-il mio
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Voglio-il mio
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If financial reasons made you decide the 26th, your annual leave payout will net the same. Yes, you will pay more taxes in your last paycheck, but you will more than likely get those back when you file your taxes. Your overall gross pay will be almost the same, so your tax liability for 2025 will be almost the same; therefore your tax overpayment for the last PP (the one where your AL is paid out) will be refunded.
Haygrrl
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Thank you sooooo very much..yes, indeed, this is what I was trying to ask..sorry, for the confusion
