Even flow of mail
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DohnJalton
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You wait until next October to deliver it I believe
NorthernPines
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Load leveling has come and gone multiple times over the years.
I don't suspect anything will change, going forward.
I've had about 35 feet in a single day before, so maybe it's just perspective.
I don't suspect anything will change, going forward.
I've had about 35 feet in a single day before, so maybe it's just perspective.
damifiknow
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got stamps no brainer
I agree with that, but why did our union think this is ok...... They couldn't think ahead and figure out what would happen. I just don't get it. What good is our union doing when we are the only one getting pay cut for delivering supposedly less mail yet the city side route aren't getting adjusted at all. I mean I taken 4 hours in 2 years and since I moved to current office, city routes haven't even been touched.....
gotstamps
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The Union has nothing to do with the mail flow.
RRECS was not an agreement but was forced upon both parties in Arbitration. The Engineers came up with Coverage Factor not the PO or Union. It wasn’t something that the Union could get thrown out since we don’t deliver mail to every single box every single day & the Engineers saw that.
It's in the contract about steady and even flow of mail....
What I AM SAYING IS THIS. If my pay is based on the coverage and mail I get each day, why is our union ok with us not getting stuff but once a week then rest of the week is garbage. I have ZERO issue with coverage factor being part of RRECS. The only issue I have is that coverage should be 100% because I still have to drive by boxes and some of them slow down to get outgoing mail. So example, if coverage is 88%, you could the other 12% at lesser rate (That is the only part of coverage factor I disagree with it). My issue is watching my so called coverage just tanking in 2 years. You would think that since it is part of our pay, that the union would be wanting more steady flow of mail instead of this BS of dump it all in 1 day and destroy the coverage. I mean in last 2 years, I have almost lost 2 hours ALONE because of coverage factor. 13% curb and 21% CBU.
The flow of mail is getting worse and worse each day. It is to the point in my office, I literally could not work Tuesday and Thursday and I wouldn't even notice the difference.
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Edge
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Same
So Monday is like a day after a holiday
Tuesday leftover junk still can be heavier
Wed nothing
Thurs nothing
Friday nothing
Saturday ULINES!!!!! A lot of stuff.
The coverage factor was created under the assumptions that there would be no alterations made to the mail flow by the parties. Clearly one side is manipulating it now. That should make the coverage factor be void if union would fight it.
All -- Thoughts on the "Even Flow" of mail -- despite being out a l-o-n-g time.
-- Kind of surprising that mail even "flows" these days as the USPS seems to say mail volume is way down.
-- Ask manglement if they have the 15 September 2006 DIRECTIVE from the USPS or the 07 April 1999 Bothwell Letter.
- In case they don't: It is unacceptable for either management or rural carriers to take actions that affect the integrity of the mail count. ( page 21 of the 2011 Mail Count Guide )
-- Of course, since RRECS has done away with mail counts as we knew them, one might say with RRECS, everyday is a mail count day.
-- If the PO-603 is still in effect, there is Section 534.4 Distributed Mail: - in part:
- Mail is distributed to ensure a normal flow on the day preceding the count period and the last day of the count. All simplified address mail available at delivery units is distributed to rural carriers during the count period. ( again figuring with RRECS, that mail count is every day, then it should apply to an even flow of mail every day )
-- Of course the odds are never in favor of the rural carriers.
-- Kind of surprising that mail even "flows" these days as the USPS seems to say mail volume is way down.
-- Ask manglement if they have the 15 September 2006 DIRECTIVE from the USPS or the 07 April 1999 Bothwell Letter.
- In case they don't: It is unacceptable for either management or rural carriers to take actions that affect the integrity of the mail count. ( page 21 of the 2011 Mail Count Guide )
-- Of course, since RRECS has done away with mail counts as we knew them, one might say with RRECS, everyday is a mail count day.
-- If the PO-603 is still in effect, there is Section 534.4 Distributed Mail: - in part:
- Mail is distributed to ensure a normal flow on the day preceding the count period and the last day of the count. All simplified address mail available at delivery units is distributed to rural carriers during the count period. ( again figuring with RRECS, that mail count is every day, then it should apply to an even flow of mail every day )
-- Of course the odds are never in favor of the rural carriers.
Our offices routes have had this and far more every day for the past two weeks.....typically one of the presorts is close to full coverage, in addition to our coverages for the day.
damifiknow
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allow me to sum this up for everyone!! usps how about we deliver the mail everyday? union ohh okay , no foresight what so ever or consideration that the usps would use it against us. daaaa, usps how about having a 6 month evaluation based on a years worth of work, with no transparacy what so ever? ohh okay. now here comes amazon and now ups. union daaaaa. they cannot see the forest through the trees. asleep at the wheel. simply put its rigged, evil, and the usps are scumbags.
U caught my attention
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Well, we are all likely still keeping our hours down.
We dont create any additional OT, we have higher hourly rates because we are getting volumes done in less time, and we get it all done with fewer employees.
We are not showing we need or deserve more. daaaa
Why wouldnt they pile on more?
We dont create any additional OT, we have higher hourly rates because we are getting volumes done in less time, and we get it all done with fewer employees.
We are not showing we need or deserve more. daaaa
Why wouldnt they pile on more?
Yep that's my issue. They have tunnel vision. Just can't see anything that isn't straight in front of them.
I remember when I first started almost 10 years ago as RCA that presort showed up every single day. It was more much of an even flow of mail. Nowadays it is just 3 or 4 days of leftovers, 1 heavy !@#%ing day, 1 average day.
As I told others, heavy days are heavier and light days are lighter. Hard to even grasp what a route can be especially like mine when I work 10 hours then work 5 hours for 3 days then 1 7 hour day.
and that is why rurals shoot themselves in the foot.
No matter how vocal and aggressive our union wants to be, the bottom line is no union has any power UNLESS they can walk off the job, strike. Our labor force can't.
So their job is to try to preserve as much as they can, cut where it's least hurtful to most.
As for RRECS, our systems are so old and there's no way they can accurately figure volumes. Lying or truthful, we will never know because no matter how hard anyone tries, the figures just don't add.
So their job is to try to preserve as much as they can, cut where it's least hurtful to most.
As for RRECS, our systems are so old and there's no way they can accurately figure volumes. Lying or truthful, we will never know because no matter how hard anyone tries, the figures just don't add.
U caught my attention
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I 100% agree with what you said @Old Fart.
I personally believe our only power is in our performance.
We as a craft have never been taught how to
use that power to work to our benefit.
We have never been shown how certain performance is in our long term best interest and why. We are encouraged to "beat evaluation" That methodology does not serve us long term and doesn't even make sense when there is know way to know what current evaluation is. Technically every week is a new evaluation and the system cant tell us what it is......so what exactly are we beating? We should have had soooooo much additional OT during covid, but we didnt because we were too busy beating 2018 evaluations.
. Is how we perform in our best interest?
I personally believe our only power is in our performance.
We as a craft have never been taught how to
use that power to work to our benefit.
We have never been shown how certain performance is in our long term best interest and why. We are encouraged to "beat evaluation" That methodology does not serve us long term and doesn't even make sense when there is know way to know what current evaluation is. Technically every week is a new evaluation and the system cant tell us what it is......so what exactly are we beating? We should have had soooooo much additional OT during covid, but we didnt because we were too busy beating 2018 evaluations.
. Is how we perform in our best interest?
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Haygrrl
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Oh, their's is coming...in my 35 years, I've only seen it 3x...and it's been a while now....
Haygrrl
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Add to the fact that none of them want to go back to delivering their routes again
Jmho
