Goggles Pizano
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View of mirrors from a mailbox on my route, safe or not so much? Speed limit 45mph.
Safety begins with me
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jaymacgthree
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That looks great compared to what many of us deal with. Since you are driving a POV and are questioning your safety you may choose to invest in different mirrors, perhaps telescoping/tow mirrors to improve your view.
No, especially the first one. My advice is to get your mail all together right before the corners, wait for the traffic behind to clear, and hammer down to the box. Then chuck and go....and for what it is worth, the Post Office talks out of both sides of its mouth when it comes to safety.
@jaymacgthree has a good point there regarding the mirrors. Another idea is you could get those small self adhesive/glue on convex mirrors and place them on the lower left and the lower right area of each respective mirror. The convex increases your field of view.
U caught my attention
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Can you have them move their box to a safer spot with better views of oncoming traffic? Where are the driveways? If box goes off street and into driveway will visibility exiting this area improve and would you have a good turn around point in their drive? Do you deal with snow/ice during parts of the year that also needs to be considered?
Goggles Pizano
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The driveway is on the opposite side from the mailbox and back a little. Delivering parcels to the door I usually leave the LOT and come back to it so I can make a right into the driveway. Pulling out from their driveway or this box is really just gun it and hope for the best. I've had several near misses at this box in recent months. Cars from behind me have no time to react and stop so they go into the oncoming lane with no visibility. Winters can be tough here, it's a state road and this area is the lowest priority for plows.
I attempted to have this box moved with no success. It is safe apparently. Moving forward I will be skipping it if wet, snowy, foggy, or if vehicles are coming from behind. I will fill out a 1571 (I think that's the form) for safety each time I skip it.
Rt2mailman
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Use form 1767. It should be accessible on the wall somewhere in your office.
Goggles Pizano
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Tried that, unsuccessful. Gave them contact info for one person that almost hit me, he was never contacted. Filled out the 1767 stating no line of site, several near misses etc. was told to "follow protocol".
Rt2mailman
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What was written on the 1767as a remedy when you got your copy back? If nothing, or you hot nothing back, your pm has stepped in it. Last April the Usps has a nationwide blitz on 1767's. They are not to be ignored. That's how people die, like the clerks that died working on machines.
There is to be a control number assigned and one copy given to you and the other sent to your district safety officer. If none or any of these things were done you should file a grievance asking the question: "Can my manager avoid following Usps requirements concerning things I find unsafe?" If it is resolved with the resolution being that your manager WILL follow all USPS polices and protocols, then force him to properly file you 1767 and send a copy to the district safety officer.
There is to be a control number assigned and one copy given to you and the other sent to your district safety officer. If none or any of these things were done you should file a grievance asking the question: "Can my manager avoid following Usps requirements concerning things I find unsafe?" If it is resolved with the resolution being that your manager WILL follow all USPS polices and protocols, then force him to properly file you 1767 and send a copy to the district safety officer.
Goggles Pizano
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Got back from safety no hazard exists, follow protocol. They interviewed a carrier familiar with the route and was told of the dangers. I was out that day. Contacted the union for assistance and was ghosted. PM knows the location is extremely dangerous and was going to have them relocate to the driveway which is actually more dangerous turning across lanes without changing the LOT. Resident called safety and complained at some point in the process.
Man, I cross lanes to back into driveways on a 55mph highway on top of a blind hill. I do u turns on double line highways. I back up from boxes way over 50 ft. I back into many boxes on wrong side of the road.
It's been done this way on the route for the 30 years I have been at this office. When I got the route full time, I told MULTIPLE PM's, OIC's, union rep's and anyone who would listen. One PM tried to change it and it took exactly 1 customer to just say no. Ended there. Another called their local state rep and he said deliver there to my PM.
Safety first..man it ain't even in the top 10 of the PO list of do's and don'ts.
More like 'don't complain, just do it'.
It's been done this way on the route for the 30 years I have been at this office. When I got the route full time, I told MULTIPLE PM's, OIC's, union rep's and anyone who would listen. One PM tried to change it and it took exactly 1 customer to just say no. Ended there. Another called their local state rep and he said deliver there to my PM.
Safety first..man it ain't even in the top 10 of the PO list of do's and don'ts.
More like 'don't complain, just do it'.
NorthernPines
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Safety is about as useful as Consumer Affairs.
They're pretty much a bunch of braindead muppets.
They're pretty much a bunch of braindead muppets.
Goggles Pizano
Member
Word for word:
Safety reviewed situation. As long as carrier follows protocol no safety issues. Carrier was instructed to continue delivering at this address.
jaymacgthree
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Quite right! I forgot about those. They are relatively inexpensive upgrades too!
