Does anybody know why Greensboro, NC employees were required to use annual leave the day after the 15 inch snow storm on December 10, 2018 instead of
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mwellis32 -- "Does anybody know why Greensboro, NC employees were required to use annual leave the day after the 15 inch snow storm on December 10, 2018 instead of administrative leave for an ACT OF GOD? "
-- Some postal authority has to approve admin leave.
-- Postmasters for up to 1 day, District Managers for 1 to 3 days.
-- ELM's Section 519.211 - General. Acts of God involve community disasters such as fire, flood, or storms. The disaster situation must be general rather than personal in scope and impact. It must prevent groups of employees from working or reporting to work.
-- Anyone make it to the office? Did the mail truck make it to your office?
-- Anyone contact your Assistant District Representative or District Representative?
-- Mother Nature can get whimsical at times. Some locations may get heavy snow fall, disrupting things, while just a few miles away, just a few flakes.
-- Some postal authority has to approve admin leave.
-- Postmasters for up to 1 day, District Managers for 1 to 3 days.
-- ELM's Section 519.211 - General. Acts of God involve community disasters such as fire, flood, or storms. The disaster situation must be general rather than personal in scope and impact. It must prevent groups of employees from working or reporting to work.
-- Anyone make it to the office? Did the mail truck make it to your office?
-- Anyone contact your Assistant District Representative or District Representative?
-- Mother Nature can get whimsical at times. Some locations may get heavy snow fall, disrupting things, while just a few miles away, just a few flakes.
Rt2mailman
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No carrier can be forced to take annual leave, unless you try to take sick leave and you don't have anymore. At that time your manager can change your leave to annual. If you have been "given " sick leave by your manager, grieve the fact that you put no leave slip in and were given sick leave. If you signed a leave slip asking for sick leave, YOU took a sick day. Managers may convince carriers of something, but it might be un-true.
sinister minister
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I was not charged annual leave after snow storm. I am in G'boro.
sinister minister
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It may depend if you showed up for duty, then no truck came. Or, you did not come to work. Or, supervisor advised you to stay home.
Then carrier is paid full eval, EMA and wait time.
Carrier is paid full eval.
Carrier is paid full eval.
These are all per the F-21 (see attached).
Grieve and get your annual back.
stillfirstclass
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is this in the knowledge base? if not it would be a good candidate...
Our Postmaster was on leave and only 1 clerk whom lives close to office was able to get to work in a jeep. No mail or parcel trucks showed up. The time last winter it snowed we all showed up and no trucks showed up but instead of telling us to go home we waited around for 8 hours before we could go home. My understanding is if a lot of employees to not get to work, which I thought was the case, an Act of God would be determined and all employees that were scheduled would be allowed administrative leave? Since safety first is only an important issue on paper, I guess I was at fault along with all the other employees who realized it was personally unsafe?
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Didja file? You should have gotten your full eval, EMA and wait time.
Read situation 1 for your second thought.
@stillfirstclass - F21 is not in knowledgebase, will ask RIA to add when she has time.
Read situation 1 for your second thought.
@stillfirstclass - F21 is not in knowledgebase, will ask RIA to add when she has time.
MiddleOfNowhere
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in hawkeye district, we are always paid eval if we come in, and only get ema if an attempt of delivery is made. no requirement to actually make a delivery, but must leave building and come back in, before going home. don't come in, and you have to grieve to get any compensation, and you may not be successful.
I did not show up because the snow was above my car windows. took me 2 days to dig out. No carriers got to the office. No Amazon, No mail, No Fedex or UPS trucks got to office. SO you have to ignore common sense and risk your health and life to get an Act Of God pass? The last time I showed up with fellow carriers and no trucks showing up,we had to sit around at office for 8 hrs and look at the walls and I was not going to risk my life and car for this again.
No. Situation 1.
Situation 3 + plus wait time.
Knowledge is power. Use it.
CommonSense
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WHY? Honest & concise answer: Probably because it gave the PM favorable treatment from above - and (s)he thought they could get away with it
