alright, someone managed to hit a high 48k this morning (not sure HOW after cuts then losing amazon) , I went from 43 to 40...still waiting to hear everyone's numbers...but the question is, when they have to cut 48k route, would it go to regulars that went below 43 or would it go to auxiliary? which is priority
48k bust and routes at 40k and under--new eval
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jaymacgthree
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I have never seen documentation that says another route's deliveries must go to a regular route after adjustment's. All things being equal it is more economical to the Postal Service for the cut territory to go to an Aux.
thats how they always did it before we had an aux...they forced me to give up a 300 lot trailer park to another carrier that was smaller than mine when I busted at 48. He went up to like a 45 and I went down to 43k at time. that was 15 years ago
AllOutOfLove
New member
So if I drop below a 40k and we have an aux route, how do I go about requesting rebuilding my route? Used to be a 48k about a year and half/ 2 years ago but between cuts and losing Amazon i have lost so much time
jaymacgthree
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That does sound fishy. I'd request that in writing.
They don’t have to until a regular route goes below 35 hrs even then it would most likely need a grievance to happen. Evals are not guaranteed at any certain amount of hours. I realize and sympathize with you that it sucks big time. Look into rrecs and what makes the best bang for your buck. While doing that make sure to map every month EoS it will add some time. Keep labels edit book etc updated as well. Not saying you aren’t just offering ideas to increase eval. Yes it will take time to get eval back up, but it does require being proactive on our end.
I thought the cut routes were protected from going below 43 after they were unlocked?
gotstamps
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No such thing.
Joebobjones
Member
The USPS and NRLCA signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) in November 2024 to address territorial route adjustments, freezing evaluations on adjusted routes until 52 weeks of data are recorded. This measure protects carriers by ensuring more accurate, stabilized evaluations. It also provides retroactive pay corrections to October 19, 2024, for affected routes.
Missed a scan
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Retroactive pay, does that mean if my currently frozen route 43K, becomes unfrozen next September, and it comes back at a 45K, will I get 2 hours of back pay all the way back to when it was frozen on May 19, 2025? At the same time, if it comes back as a 41K, do they take back money all the way back to May 19, 2025?
Joebobjones
Member
Yes, the retroactive pay under this MOU works in your favor for any increase, but it does not require you to pay money back if the unfrozen evaluation comes in lower.
Rogtar
Well-known member
You mean this attachment? I can't quite understand what you read, could you highlight it please? Or show me the good doc you got it from?
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Missed a scan
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That document talks about route changes from October 2024 and prior. Nothing to do with after October 2024. Also says you get to give back some pay, if you new evaluation is less than what you were paid during the freeze process.
gotstamps
Well-known member
That pay portion of that MOU only applied to routes adjusted in early 2024. The remainder of the MOU put all adjusted routes “frozen” in evaluation thereafter.
There is no further back pay nor protection for any routes that are adjusted.
Once the adjusted route is “unfrozen” in the MMS after 1 year, whatever the evaluation comes back as will stay as is.
they cut us all down to "43k" last year and then we lost amazon a month later. Somehow a few carriers still came back as 47 and 48k this weekend. So that means they get backpay for the last year since they were never really actually 43's?
Missed a scan
Well-known member
Read the MOU that was posted above. You will find that they are SOL.
Joebobjones
Member
Don't rely solely on forum posts—get official guidance, as payroll corrections can sometimes need a grievance to enforce properly.
gotstamps
Well-known member
There is no “payroll correction” for adjusted routes that were frozen for a year +. That MOU only pertained to routes that were adjusted in early 2024 & then were not frozen for the September 2024 MMS. After that Survey, those adjusted routes came back with severely skewed evaluations. The MOU was then created to correct the pay issues and freeze those evaluations to the previously Adjusted Evaluation. Some carriers received back pay for underpayment while others received a Letter Of Demand for overpayment.
When the routes that were adjusted last Summer “thaw out” in the next MMS (mine was), we will have no LODs if we drop nor backpay if we rise. The Eval is the eval & can only be disputed just like other routes if the new Eval is incorrect with proof of a mistake.
