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Another Dreaded Matrix Question

Cliff Clavin

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How long does an RCA have to wait if they wish to change the primary that they were hired for?

If said RCA wants to change their primary, should other more senior RCA's be offered said route first?

Or perhaps should the entire Matrix be opened up since there will be an empty route created by this move?
 
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<strong>Cliff Clavin said </strong>
How long does an RCA have to wait if they wish to change the primary that they were hired for?

If said RCA wants to change their primary, should other more senior RCA's be offered said route first?

Or perhaps should the entire Matrix be opened up since there will be an empty route created by this move?  

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No time limit to switch primary, but filled in accordance with 902 30.2.E.
 
So should the entire matrix be opened filled in accordance with 902 30.2.E ?

Also If said RCA wants to change their primary, should other more senior RCA’s be offered said route first?

I know that they can write a request to the PM to change their primary but what if someone more senior also wants it?
 
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So should the entire matrix be opened filled in accordance with 902 30.2.E ?

Also If said RCA wants to change their primary, should other more senior RCA’s be offered said route first?

I know that they can write a request to the PM to change their primary but what if someone more senior also wants it?  </blockquote>
What do mean by "opened"? Vacancies must be offered by seniority. The Matrix is <strong><em>never </em></strong> "blown up and redone" if that's what you're asking. More senior RCAs can't force junior RCAs off their selections, otherwise known as "bumping."
 
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What do mean by "opened"? Vacancies must be offered by seniority. The Matrix is <strong><em>never </em></strong> "blown up and redone" if that's what you're asking. <strong>More senior RCAs can't force junior RCAs off their selections, otherwise known as "bumping."  </strong></blockquote>
No I wasn't asking about BUMPING!

If an RCA wants to change their primary, should other more senior RCA’s be offered the open route first?
 
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What do mean by "opened"? Vacancies must be offered by seniority. The Matrix is <strong><em>never </em></strong> "blown up and redone" if that's what you're asking. <strong>More senior RCAs can't force junior RCAs off their selections, otherwise known as "bumping."  </strong></blockquote>

No I wasn't asking about BUMPING!

If an RCA wants to change their primary, should other more senior RCA’s be offered the open route first?  </blockquote>
30.2.E.1.

Absolutely 
 
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<strong>EthelAnne said </strong>

What do mean by "opened"? Vacancies must be offered by seniority. The Matrix is <strong><em>never </em></strong> "blown up and redone" if that's what you're asking. More senior RCAs can't force junior RCAs off their selections, otherwise known as "bumping."  

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Let me see if I have this correct.

1) If the Matrix is opened and if someone wants to change their<strong> Primary</strong> they can as long as they don't bump anyone else. <strong>Correct?</strong>

2) If the Matrix is opened can you chose a route in the <strong>secondary or third</strong> position that someone else already has for their second or third choice if you are senior to them? <strong>Yes or No</strong>
 
Matrix questions are very hard to answer because most offices don't really follow the directions correctly, but in a way that nobody in the office is upset by it enough to file a grievance, or don't know they could file one. Ethelanne is correct the ENTIRE matrix is never"opened". If management notices enough open places on the matrix they "may" open the matrix for some movement,after which hiring new RCA's to fill the openings. RCAs that are "qualified" (worked more than one hour on the route in question) can move to open places on the matrix at that time only, and any rca with a spot on the matrix is allowed to move up first (except for open primary positions, which is strictly a seniority move). If management opens the matrix for movement, carriers have 30 days to make "their" move, after which the matrix is then closed again until the next change of substance (route hour change, added or deleted LLV, or RCA moves up or leaves service), this is rarely followed in most offices. New RCAs are not usually given chances for choices on the matrix until "needed" or they are observed to be proficient on their primary. If, however, they don't make 2 choices management can place them on 2 other open places on the matrix, as long as no one is below them. The reason there is a time limit on these choices (including primary, even with seniority) is so no RCA jumps from route to route until all the regulars' annual leave is used, and by that taking all extra work away from the 2nd and 3rd matrix carriers, especially on routes that are hold downs. Well, now that almost all of us think I'm crazy because none of us have followed the matrix "correctly"and would have worked less if we had, read the matrix questions and answers in the knowledge base first before coming to that conclusion.
 
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2) If the Matrix is opened can you chose a route in the <strong>secondary or third</strong> position that someone else already has for their second or third choice if you are senior to them? <strong>Yes or No</strong></blockquote>
No. If the secondary and tertiary positions are filled, still no bumping. If the secondary is open and the tertiary position is filled the tertiary sub must be offered the secondary position before allowing even a more senior sub the secondary spot.
 
 
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