we did not have any fss on Saturday. they said power problems. no random flats. today dps comes in 2 hrs late, I have 11 trays. count sheet says 1660. I made then count it, 3416!. other carriers saw that and did the same. no explanation from the supervisor. came in today to see that 2 routes did not have their parcels run on sunday. saw what they were running, it wasn't just amazon and priority, brought it up to the stupe. she was pissy and walked away. well 2 routes had a good day. I had less parcels today, on Monday than any day last week. theives
beware of dps and fss machine counts
- Thread starter humper1va
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humper1va -- "we did not have any fss on Saturday. they said power problems. no random flats. today dps comes in 2 hrs late, I have 11 trays. count sheet says 1660. I made then count it, 3416!. "
-- With those numbers, I'd say those 11 trays were not really packed.
-- How was the quality?
-- My last office used a "standard" of 421 mail pieces in a tray of DPS.
-- The use of a formula popped up this year regarding riffling time that uses 215 mail pieces per 1 ft of DPS.
-- With those numbers, I'd say those 11 trays were not really packed.
-- How was the quality?
-- My last office used a "standard" of 421 mail pieces in a tray of DPS.
-- The use of a formula popped up this year regarding riffling time that uses 215 mail pieces per 1 ft of DPS.
they were packed enough to be more than 1660! 227 dps errors, out of this, 6 packed trays one per shelf, 5 smaller trays one per shelf. I have a wing on my case. what does the quality have to do with them sending erroneous reports? if I hadn't said anything, 1660 would be on my sheet. trust the #"s they say. bull
humper1va -- "what does the quality have to do with them sending erroneous reports?"
-- was just wondering about inverted pieces, pieces for other routes or other post offices.
-- I previously posted of having letter sorting machines for a while at my last post office. the clerks running the machines gave us a heads up of multiple EOR's.
-- was just wondering about inverted pieces, pieces for other routes or other post offices.
-- I previously posted of having letter sorting machines for a while at my last post office. the clerks running the machines gave us a heads up of multiple EOR's.
Deer Smearer
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<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>btdtret said </strong>
humper1va -- "we did not have any fss on Saturday. they said power problems. no random flats. today dps comes in 2 hrs late, I have 11 trays. count sheet says 1660. I made then count it, 3416!. "
-- With those numbers, I'd say those 11 trays were not really packed.
-- How was the quality?
-- My last office used a "standard" of 421 mail pieces in a tray of DPS.
-- The use of a formula popped up this year regarding riffling time that uses 215 mail pieces per 1 ft of DPS. </blockquote>
My trays are averaging 525 pieces per tray.
humper1va -- "we did not have any fss on Saturday. they said power problems. no random flats. today dps comes in 2 hrs late, I have 11 trays. count sheet says 1660. I made then count it, 3416!. "
-- With those numbers, I'd say those 11 trays were not really packed.
-- How was the quality?
-- My last office used a "standard" of 421 mail pieces in a tray of DPS.
-- The use of a formula popped up this year regarding riffling time that uses 215 mail pieces per 1 ft of DPS. </blockquote>
My trays are averaging 525 pieces per tray.
MiddleOfNowhere
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i had 1400 today, in three trays, and the trays were not tight that it caused any problem to flip letters forward and back to riffle.
dps trays measure 1.75 feet
dps trays measure 1.75 feet
Deer Smearer
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<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>btdtret said </strong>
Deer Smearer -- "My trays are averaging 525 pieces per tray."
-- WOW!!
-- Solidly packed?
-- Thin letters?
-- Deep or shallow soft plastic trays? </blockquote>
Solid, thin, shallow.
Deer Smearer -- "My trays are averaging 525 pieces per tray."
-- WOW!!
-- Solidly packed?
-- Thin letters?
-- Deep or shallow soft plastic trays? </blockquote>
Solid, thin, shallow.
I had a wrong DPS count last Monday, they refused to count it. Said union agreed that we use EOR report, I counted off over 200 pieces. Grievance for that and many other things being done this count. So many I can't even list them all. Luckily still breaking even numbers wise, cuz this one is gonna take a while to sort out I am sure.
dannkim18 -- "I had a wrong DPS count last Monday, they refused to count it. Said union agreed that we use EOR report, I counted off over 200 pieces. "
-- 200 pieces could be about a third to half a tray.
-- Was the EOR the absolute last one?
-- When did you get the EOR? Before or after casing the DPS?
-- If possible, wait for the EOR before doing anything with the DPS in case there is another "disparity".
-- Aside from "Deer Smearer's" 525 pieces per tray, usually may be 420-430 DPS pieces per tray ( unless ultra thin or thick ).
-- Add it to the growing list of reasons not to sign off on the count numbers being correct.
-- 200 pieces could be about a third to half a tray.
-- Was the EOR the absolute last one?
-- When did you get the EOR? Before or after casing the DPS?
-- If possible, wait for the EOR before doing anything with the DPS in case there is another "disparity".
-- Aside from "Deer Smearer's" 525 pieces per tray, usually may be 420-430 DPS pieces per tray ( unless ultra thin or thick ).
-- Add it to the growing list of reasons not to sign off on the count numbers being correct.
It was my locked pouch intermediate area, EOR said 188 which was less than Saturday and Tuesday, the tray was full and I counted it--389 in it. Like you said another reason to not sign off. EOR was before I cased it, but well after it should have been in the system, I had my clerk recheck EOR the next day and it said the same thing.
Shafted
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I had a jackass PM back in the day when I had an aux route that said he wouldn’t change my end run totals when they were clearly off. When he wasn’t around Imtook a tray and turned up every 50th letter, and dropped the trays off on his desk. Told him to check it if he liked, but would be grieved. He pouted, but the game was over.
FrozenToes
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<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>humper1va said </strong>
happened again today, sheet said 1561, actual count 2235. theives </blockquote>
Ridiculous amount to be off. Are they showing you the EOR ?
happened again today, sheet said 1561, actual count 2235. theives </blockquote>
Ridiculous amount to be off. Are they showing you the EOR ?
<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>FrozenToes said </strong>
Ridiculous amount to be off. Are they showing you the EOR ? </blockquote>
yes, they show me the report, Mondays wasn't close, Tuesday was on, today another adventure. I have a 780 box route, so as soon as I see that there are 2 complete mailings in there, and its only saying 1500, I know its a joke. by the way they timed me to count the trays, and then went back to verify, they put the time in the counting time column. how does that work?
Ridiculous amount to be off. Are they showing you the EOR ? </blockquote>
yes, they show me the report, Mondays wasn't close, Tuesday was on, today another adventure. I have a 780 box route, so as soon as I see that there are 2 complete mailings in there, and its only saying 1500, I know its a joke. by the way they timed me to count the trays, and then went back to verify, they put the time in the counting time column. how does that work?
FrozenToes
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<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>humper1va said </strong>
yes, they show me the report, Mondays wasn't close, Tuesday was on, today another adventure. I have a 780 box route, so as soon as I see that there are 2 complete mailings in there, and its only saying 1500, I know its a joke. by the way they timed me to count the trays, and then went back to verify, they put the time in the counting time column. how does that work? </blockquote>
The counting time was done right. It will not be a part of your evaluation. The 4241 you will receive after count will have the actual hours it took you to do your route. Total hours worked minus counting time , minus waiting time = actual hours used to serve route.
yes, they show me the report, Mondays wasn't close, Tuesday was on, today another adventure. I have a 780 box route, so as soon as I see that there are 2 complete mailings in there, and its only saying 1500, I know its a joke. by the way they timed me to count the trays, and then went back to verify, they put the time in the counting time column. how does that work? </blockquote>
The counting time was done right. It will not be a part of your evaluation. The 4241 you will receive after count will have the actual hours it took you to do your route. Total hours worked minus counting time , minus waiting time = actual hours used to serve route.
