Today PM came in and told everyone we had boxes on our routes that were “ Potential clusters” Has anyone else seen this list. PM does our yearly ride along and has never said anything in 10 years. Now boxes that are 5 to 10 feet apart are considered clusters. This doesn’t seem right.
Box spacing
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The RRECS Guide has this regarding creep time.
3. Creep Time (S143)
This standard is applied to those instances in which the distance between two mailboxes
is less than 5 feet. The mapping program cannot accurately discern distances this small,
so RRECS applies a standard of 0.0208 minutes for each of the spaces between boxes
grouped close together. In a common example of 10 boxes lined up on one long post,
the route valuation would be credited with 9 spaces times 0.0208 minutes/space times
6 days or 1.12 minutes per week in Creep Time for this set of boxes.
So, your PM is right about the 5 or maybe even 6 feet. I'm not so sure about any distance(s) beyond that. It sounds like they are trying to lower the number of mapped stops. That would be a benchmarking grievance if this is what they are doing.
Good thread to ask this -
5 feet is the distance for curbside
What about CBUS?
If i have two seperated by an alleyway, is that not considered two stops? I've never seen language for this specifically aimed at CBU, only curbside.
Management argues that you take it all with you, however, that disregards the issue at hand entirely
5 feet is the distance for curbside
What about CBUS?
If i have two seperated by an alleyway, is that not considered two stops? I've never seen language for this specifically aimed at CBU, only curbside.
Management argues that you take it all with you, however, that disregards the issue at hand entirely
Rogtar
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iirc they get separated during dpm/ltm right? Whichever way that lands, there should be a dismount distance associated with them, so the credit is given in that manner X AuthDis you use.
Last paragraph-if they are trying to lower the number of mapped stops how does that effect evaluation?...Bc I thought if 2 boxes are clustered together BOTH are given credit as mail for the day for just one stop-even if only 1 has dps for the day ? Which is BETTER for evaluation stopping at 2 mailboxes or only 1 stop with 2 being clustered together?
1 stop with 2 being clustered together, imo
route coverage % needs as much help as it can get
route coverage % needs as much help as it can get
eh, just wasn't sure if there was actual language regarding it or not
The issue is when they start saying " 10 feet" or that "5 to 10 feet". The 5 feet part is in line with the RRECS Guide but getting into that 7 to 10 foot range and "them" wanting to group THOSE together is not the correct thing to do. As far as stops affecting the evaluation goes , The Guide has this ;
A. A mile in which the rural carrier is in a neighborhood and stops every 100 feet or so
to service a box: In this example the mile is divided in approximate 53 intervals of
100 feet. Looking at the DSM above we multiply each 100‐foot interval by 0.00128
minutes/foot and get 0.128 minutes per interval times 53 intervals equals 6.78
minutes per day or 40.7 minutes per week driving time for this mile of the route.
B. A mile in which the carrier stops for boxes that are more spread out and 1/10 of a
mile apart: In this example the mile is only divided into 10 intervals of 528 feet.
From DSM, we multiply each 528‐foot interval by 0.00067 minutes/ft and get 0.354
minutes per interval times 10 intervals equals 3.54 minutes per day or 21.23 minutes
per week driving time.
C. A mile of “dead‐head” in which the carrier makes no stops for boxes or traffic
control points: In this example the mile is one interval of 5280 feet. From DSM we
multiply 5280 feet times 0.00029 minutes/ft and get 1.53 minutes per day or 9.19
minutes per week driving time.
