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boxstuffer
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Don't believe they can be "scheduled" to work two routes.
But they can "Assist" 1 or more routes after they have completed the Aux route.
At least that's how I understand it.
I could be wrong, we have no Aux route in my office.
But they can "Assist" 1 or more routes after they have completed the Aux route.
At least that's how I understand it.
I could be wrong, we have no Aux route in my office.
gotstamps
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Mgmt can make you assist or take other routes in addition to the aux. They cannot, however, schedule any carrier for a shift of over 12 hours. If both routes are "scheduled" & the evals add to over 12, no they cannot. If they ONLY Schedule you for the aux & order you to run another afterwards, you may then be working over 12 hours. On Dec 24, we are out of the OT period & back to eval hours.
Deer Smearer
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<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>gotstamps said </strong>
Mgmt can make you assist or take other routes in addition to the aux. They cannot, however, schedule any carrier for a shift of over 12 hours. If both routes are "scheduled" & the evals add to over 12, no they cannot. If they ONLY Schedule you for the aux & order you to run another afterwards, you may then be working over 12 hours. On Dec 24, we are out of the OT period & back to eval hours. </blockquote>
I don't agree with your belief that manglement is limited in the hours they can require a worker to work only if they schedule the work, and can somehow order exceeding 12 hours simply because they did not schedule it in some sort of advanced fashion.
ELM 432.32
Maximum Hours Allowed
Except as designated in labor agreements for bargaining unit employees or in emergency situations as determined by the postmaster general (or designee), <strong>employees may not be required</strong> to work more than 12 hours in 1service day. In addition, the total hours of daily service, including scheduled workhours, overtime, and mealtime, may not be extended over a period longer than 12 consecutive hours. Postmasters and exempt employees are excluded from these provisions.
12 hour limits has been arbitrated and confirmed several times in city carrier grievances. Since there is no OT desired list, or contract language specifically allowing over 12 hour mandates, I see no reason why it wouldn't apply to the rural carrier craft as well.
Everything is not an emergency, and everyone carrying a clipboard is not a Postmaster General designee.
Mgmt can make you assist or take other routes in addition to the aux. They cannot, however, schedule any carrier for a shift of over 12 hours. If both routes are "scheduled" & the evals add to over 12, no they cannot. If they ONLY Schedule you for the aux & order you to run another afterwards, you may then be working over 12 hours. On Dec 24, we are out of the OT period & back to eval hours. </blockquote>
I don't agree with your belief that manglement is limited in the hours they can require a worker to work only if they schedule the work, and can somehow order exceeding 12 hours simply because they did not schedule it in some sort of advanced fashion.
ELM 432.32
Maximum Hours Allowed
Except as designated in labor agreements for bargaining unit employees or in emergency situations as determined by the postmaster general (or designee), <strong>employees may not be required</strong> to work more than 12 hours in 1service day. In addition, the total hours of daily service, including scheduled workhours, overtime, and mealtime, may not be extended over a period longer than 12 consecutive hours. Postmasters and exempt employees are excluded from these provisions.
12 hour limits has been arbitrated and confirmed several times in city carrier grievances. Since there is no OT desired list, or contract language specifically allowing over 12 hour mandates, I see no reason why it wouldn't apply to the rural carrier craft as well.
Everything is not an emergency, and everyone carrying a clipboard is not a Postmaster General designee.
gotstamps
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And yet, it's in the contract about being paid OT for the over 12-hour part. Mgmt cannot schedule a carrier to work more than 12 hours due to labor laws. BUT we have to follow direct orders AND there is nothing in OUR contract that says we can't work over 12. Instead, it instructs on how we are to be paid if/when we go over 12 hours.
