Contract offer? Where?

[Windindaface]

Viewing many posts on various forums and hearing from in house STEW there is a proposal on Potsmoker Generals desk waiting to be signed for over a month. What is the delay? Drying ink or more free labor without COLA and percentile raises for those who maxed out on steps?

 

[formerlyknownas]

It is kinda weird. Didn't she use to be a carrier so she knows what it's like.

 

[Wilco183]

The PMG is giving it the requisite amount of time for the appearance of actually considering any of it before impasse is declared and it's off to arbitration we go. Meanwhile, her staff, always several steps ahead of a union having no nuclear option...ergo toothless, is formulting battle plans for yet another in a list of consecutive KOs - LLV DPS, Table 2, ...

 

[Wilco183]

It is kinda weird. Didn't she use to be a carrier so she knows what it's like.

She's been busy since then. Supervisor, Manager, Area Ops, MIT MBA, COO - USPS, & PMG. Her current side gigs include Amazon Lobbyist and commercial voice actor.

 

[RDruckus]

You forgot paperweight.

 

[btdtret]

RDruckus -- "You forgot paperweight."

-- Referring to the contract or the PMG?

 

[RDruckus]

PMG sitting on the contract.

 

[Wilco183]

PMG sitting on the contract.

Placing loopholes in the contract no less.

 

[stingrayiii]

Well they said that by 2024 they wouldn't be able to pay employees because of being out of funds. So there might be something to that, like taking our no layoff clause out. I still fear there will be a RIF soon and will be replaced with contract carriers. Things just don't look well for us. In my opinion anyway.

 

[wamailmom]

Well, if they can layoff, you can strike. That was the deal. Previously....

 

[Wilco183]

Hmm, will a Carrier who's also in the National Guard be considered a scab after "crossing the picket line?"

 

[Jmdw52]

Well, if they can layoff, you can strike. That was the deal. Previously....

What exactly is the provision that stops us from a strike *between* contracts?

We don’t have an agreement and the no strike clause is in the contract....

 

[Wilco183]

Even being my most pragmatic, I just can't see bleeding any more salary/benefits from the employee. The PO has all kinds of ideas to be used in their please help save us efforts...all at employee expense.

I won't even blink when a mandatory Maximum Retirement Age and/or Maximum Time in Service starts being floated, surprised it hasn't happened already.

 

[DontTrustTheUnion]

Because the expired contract is considered the most current, and therefore are the most applicable rules. Lots of google results talk about the National Labor Review Board's position on expired labor contracts. That being said, we could put specific contingency language into the next or a subsequent contract that details the operating terms for when between contracts. That language for between contract periods would help motivate formation of agreement to new normal under-contract conditions.

And do you actually see our diligent, hardworking, attentive, persistent, conscientious union doing this ? LMFAO

 

[Jmdw52]

Because the expired contract is considered the most current, and therefore are the most applicable rules. Lots of google results talk about the National Labor Review Board's position on expired labor contracts. That being said, we could put specific contingency language into the next or a subsequent contract that details the operating terms for when between contracts. That language for between contract periods would help motivate formation of agreement to new normal under-contract conditions.

So maybe in future contracts we should have agreed upon wage increases beyond the life of the contract?

Maybe all of the items in the contract that change during the life of the contract should continue beyond the contract?

I’m sorry but saying the most recent contract carries the most applicable rules and then cherry picking things to managements nts advantage is just a can of worms.

Sometimes the only way to get your point across is to take things into your own hands. Not saying we should strike... just saying that if there’s no contract it should be on the table... labor review board be damned!

 

[oi veh.]

Just so's all youse knows (and this is NOT an invitation, D.B.)

As per 5 USC 7311, we as federal employees are not allowed to strike, contract or no.

Just ask the traffic controllers.

That's it. Just an aside, please donot derail the convo. Thank you.

 

[ceebee]

Viewing many posts on various forums and hearing from in house STEW there is a proposal on Potsmoker Generals desk waiting to be signed for over a month. What is the delay? Drying ink or more free labor without COLA and percentile raises for those who maxed out on steps?

election concerns. Plus, in spite of what she said at the convention in Grand Rapids, she's attempting to woo congress towards a five day work week which no doubt makes it difficult to sign a contract that says otherwise. Just my personal opinion.

 

[Windindaface]

Oi... You know in this day and age it is incorrect to single a person out when work politics are involved. I feel left out. Perhaps others do too.

 

[C$$]

True we can't strike, but that doesn't mean we can't be disruptive. For example, maybe we all refuse to take scanners on the route, or refuse to scan Amazon packages, etc.