Couple questions

Lyra · Sep 17, 2020

As far as everything I pull out of the DPS… I was told I don’t get credit for pulling holds but I do get a bundle parcel credit when I go to deliver it… Also is it only one credit for pulling markup per each thing? Like say I had 10 CFS is do I get 10 credits or do I just get one?

we have to put our gas receipts in a special spot… Do I get time to walk over there and put it in there?

is there any other tips anyone has?

Lyra · Sep 17, 2020

What about SPM scans and also stamp stock credit?

ctrural2 · Sep 17, 2020

Jess said:
What about SPM scans and also stamp stock credit?

SPM's are "built in" from when we were counting them. Stamp stock is 20 min/week

Gotrope · Sep 17, 2020

Spms are to be counted daily for additional time. You can't build in what wasn't input. A service agreement is in place on allotted time per event. Make them pay for alerts on route, too. The geo-fence dog alerts and such.

oi veh. · Sep 17, 2020

PastOThirty said:
That is why the supe should be putting holds in webees, just like they do with city carriers holds so you wouldn’t get dps credit, just the raw letter credit.

sssssssh. we're not city.

btdtret · Sep 17, 2020

ctrural2 et al -- "SPM's are "built in" from when we were counting them. Stamp stock is 20 min/week."

-- Get that 20 minutes for Stamp Stock while you can.

-- BIG changes in RRECS for Stamp Stock.

Lyra · Sep 17, 2020

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can someone explain?

gotstamps · Sep 17, 2020

Jess said:
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can someone explain?

1) SPM where you had mail to scan is 35 seconds each episode.
2) SPM where there was NO mail to scan, just entering through, is 18 seconds.
3) If SPM is for a collection box (blue box), 70 seconds is credited

Lyra · Sep 18, 2020

If they don’t let me work my K day and it’s a sub. She is brand new like not even a month. I’m suppose to come in and watch. But she doesn’t pull anything from the dps soo am I suppose to come in and make sure all of that gets pulled? Also she doesn’t take all the packages a sub does because she is new

Charlie Brown · Sep 18, 2020

You are allowed to observe but are not allowed to touch any mail. If your Mgmt. is good and because the sub is new they may let you bend that rule a little. All parcels for your route should be counted and credited to your route no matter who delivers them. If there are parcels from your route being delivered by another sub then you should make sure your route is given credit for those parcels plus the time for the scans.

Twingrlie · Sep 18, 2020

Jess said:
If they don’t let me work my K day and it’s a sub. She is brand new like not even a month. I’m suppose to come in and watch. But she doesn’t pull anything from the dps soo am I suppose to come in and make sure all of that gets pulled? Also she doesn’t take all the packages a sub does because she is new

You can observe and let her know what to do and point out what needs to be done all off the clock. As long as the packages are being credited, it doesn’t matter who takes them that day.

Gotrope · Sep 18, 2020

Just make sure they don't try to rush because they are being timed. It's normal work pace not an Olympic speed trial. Explain they will run themselves out of a job if the route loses time...

Lyra · Sep 19, 2020

Going back to the SPM scans does anyone know what it means when they’re talking about Annotated?

Gotrope · Sep 19, 2020

Why don't you ask your trained counter? The term annotated simply means recorded, as in noted in writing.
Not being snarky, but you should attempt to resolve issues on the day they occur. If your counter cannot resolve the issue to your satisfaction...by all means come to the oracles?

Deer Smearer · Sep 20, 2020

Gotrope said:
Why don't you ask your trained counter? The term annotated simply means recorded, as in noted in writing.
Not being snarky, but you should attempt to resolve issues on the day they occur. If your counter cannot resolve the issue to your satisfaction...by all means come to the oracles?

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oi veh. · Sep 20, 2020

Jess said:
Going back to the SPM scans does anyone know what it means when they’re talking about Annotated?

On your 4240, write down SPM - D (delivered [scanned] - 2 (or however many)
SPM - D - 2

Same for A (no scans, past box) and C (any blue box pick up)

On the route, I would keep track the same as I do for upside downs in DPS.

I still keep track on my SPMs daily, just in case things ever change in the future, i.e., not built in from the last SPM monitoring period.

Windindaface · Sep 20, 2020

@ Jess... Also she doesn’t take all the packages a sub does because she is new

Those packages and scans left behind by your Newbie. Should be credited again when you return after your K day for your delivery.

Also file for for the time to do this because you were not given a full day of relief.

As to the no pull from your DPS from Newbie,,, It is still early for this count. Check those boxes that are holds or FWDS. Pull it out and toss into outgoing. You should get it back when you are working as more mail in your DPS in the next couple of days.

What is this special location for the gas up tag? Mine go on the cart at the end of day. Do you have to put your route # on it? If so a Mark up credit. If you put it in the special location and it's beyond 50 feet from your normal drop off activity. Footage credit.

Lyra · Sep 20, 2020

Gotrope said:
Why don't you ask your trained counter? The term annotated simply means recorded, as in noted in writing.
Not being snarky, but you should attempt to resolve issues on the day they occur. If your counter cannot resolve the issue to your satisfaction...by all means come to the oracles?

trained counter? Yah.. ok. I’m training them as we go! There’s nothing wrong with getting clarification to make sure I’m doing it right and they’re doing 100%! This is my livelihood and my money so thanks for your worthless advice. ?

Gotrope · Sep 21, 2020

I'm sad you have an untrained counter, that sucks. They are given a booklet with all categories they can refer to when questions arise. I truly wasn't being snarky. As a general rule it is best to start a conversation with your counter to discuss why they credited something as they did. From there, you can argue dimensions, damage, time and such. If you are not getting credit for anything you think you should - make certain the counter documents the item(s) on the 4239 comment section to confirm you received them. From there, your office mgmt must contact district for a ruling. If denied, keep a count of items and contact your steward for when to file. Generally, you should have a daily list of items you requested but we're denied. At the end of count, when they give you the 4241a, you must write a disagreement letter to district. The letter contains the items you did not receive credit for. The 4241a has two places to sign. One is for you to agree and certify to the accuracy of count( never agree, there's always something they missed). The second is to guarantee your 2080 commitment.
I agree it's your money. Fight for it.

Edit: I know we all get a bit stressed at count time. For the first time since '96 I am not counting this year. I almost forced a count but I'm so close to walking...

neciat · Sep 21, 2020

Your counter(s) also must have been to mail count training to be "qualified" to actually count mail. As Gotrope stated, document any and all disputed items on the bottom of the 4239. There is also this form available to clarify exactly what is being disputed.