Evaluation Results

[Gotrope]

I am sure most of the carriers who don't like RRECS are those who don't know how to take advantage of RRECS.

This is only partially true. The bigger issue is bad cell service costing carriers $$$$. And USPS front loading coverages to DPS on one day. It removes normal, intended, credit for carrying.

 

[Gotrope]

Carriers running overburdened routes without the Overburdened pay were complaining about not having a mail count. Those areas that received Amazon pkgs after the 2018 Mail count was crying to be counted.
Until the MMSs & learning what is missing in this program, a lot of carriers were hopeful that this new count method would be all it’s being advertised as.

Yes, they were hopeful. The sad people.

 

[jsthere723]

-- Apparently the only way to ensure carriers are getting paid for everything done during the work day is to ( gasp ) go hourly, like the other unions!

Do you work more than your evaluation? Just asking . If not, you are already getting paid hourly and then some .

Correction: I saw your disclaimer late . So according to your own saying you are not in a position to judge RRECS actually. So I would redirect my question to those who are actually working under RRECS last few years and still feel the way you feel . I believe there will not be many . Maybe a handful

 

[Shannonboy]

I am sure most of the carriers who don't like RRECS are those who don't know how to CHEAT at RRECS.

My version....I dont like rrec's. Its THEFT pure and simple. I called it theft before it started, and I tried everything the smart people on here recommended, and lost more money out of my paycheck.....

 

[Shannonboy]

I disagree with that. Some yes for sure but others like me, I keep getting more boxes and stops and yet I keep losing time. I do all the right stuff too.

In last 2 years depending on this result this time, I will be down either 9k or 11k if I lose 1 or 2 hours.

Live out in rural America and see that what happens to all of us is we are all losing.

EXACTLY RIGHT.....WE ARE BEING
GRAPED, WITHOUT THE "G" THATS YOU'ALLS GOOD OL UNION....BECAUSE IT'LL NEVER BE MINE...

 

[Gotrope]

Do you work more than your evaluation? Just asking . If not, you are already getting paid hourly and then some .

Correction: I saw your disclaimer late . So according to your own saying you are not in a position to judge RRECS actually. So I would redirect my question to those who are actually working under RRECS last few years and still feel the way you feel . I believe there will not be many . Maybe a handful

I worked under rrecs. I wanted hourly. But, I had a heavy business route that generally ran over evaluation about 80% of days.now, some of that was cleanup after RCA damage but, still well over evaluation by at least an hour a day.

I didn't take short cuts with delivery, though. I did things by the manual.

 

[jsthere723]

I worked under rrecs. I wanted hourly. But, I had a heavy business route that generally ran over evaluation about 80% of days.now, some of that was cleanup after RCA damage but, still well over evaluation by at least an hour a day.

I didn't take short cuts with delivery, though. I did things by the manual.

I believe you . Your route should not have been part of rural delivery from all the things I heard so far . But in any case rules are meant to be crafted with overwhelming majority in mind . Not with exceptions . By the way , correct me if I am wrong, didn’t you work just 1 mms under RRECS ?

 

[Gotrope]

I believe you . Your route should not have been part of rural delivery from all the things I heard so far . But in any case rules are meant to be crafted with overwhelming majority in mind . Not with exceptions . By the way , correct me if I am wrong, didn’t you work just 1 mms under RRECS ?

No, I worked 2 mms. My route was one of the very few that didn't tank like others. Most routes in the district fell to H rt. Mine had a k option.

I had a very good RCA who did pretty good with scanning. But, they didn't work all the time. The other rcas did things for their convenience that dropped the route 5 hours. Things like running to parcel pickups before the stores were open so they could scan not available and leave the load for tomorrow's carrier. The problem with that is the duel packaging on pickup. FedEx would grab the 600 pickups for the day. And then the rcas were fighting each other for hours. Not to mention rrecs isn't designed to understand your vehicle is full of pickups and you need to drop load for more pickups. Splitting the delivery and screwing your coverage. And let's not even talk about high rises and zero interior gps signal for data. Or parking structures, 70+ stop signs in parking lots, horrid city traffic backups or 5 dismount schools with parent traffic...


The RCA steward frequently forgot to enter second trips, coverages, took 1 minute end of shift. Any carrier can absolutely tank your evaluation. They are so focused upon the old system of speed for me, they forgot the actual duties of the job.

Rrrecs is only designed for about 60% of rural territory. And, unfortunately, more new territory is matching that 40% it was not designed to understand. And the union refused to do anything about the future issues. That's why I left. I couldn't be a part of the problem.

 

[RollinRural]

43k prior to rrecs
18hours over the 48k level after first 3 rrecs
Cut and frozen to 43k for a year
Now over 48k again
Can’t stop winning with rrecs
Just wish they hadn’t agreed to the freezing of routes which was not how it was supposed to work. Still as always doing free work.
Didn’t add any residences or do anything differently in any way, all due to steady parcel growth.

 

[DohnJalton]

Now over 48k again

How quickly did they cut you the first time and do they plan on doing it again?
It has to suck to have all your work for the past year go to someone else and you take the pay cut, while they get the raise.

 

[mariomail]

My route is still frozen from being cut last time but it seems in my area/office every one dropped 3-4 hours and some when from low 40Ks to J & Hs ...

 

[Link]

Lost 3 hours, most other routes in our office dropped 1-3 hours.

 

[ibd1]

I lost two hours which means I will get paid 8547 dollars more a year. I'm going to hate working every other Saturday but the extra 325 dollars a paycheck, minus taxes, tsp, medial, etc., will be nice.

 

[Twistofcain]

43k prior to rrecs
18hours over the 48k level after first 3 rrecs
Cut and frozen to 43k for a year
Now over 48k again
Can’t stop winning with rrecs
Just wish they hadn’t agreed to the freezing of routes which was not how it was supposed to work. Still as always doing free work.
Didn’t add any residences or do anything differently in any way, all due to steady parcel growth.

Was cut in 2020 to 43k. 48k after rrecs spring 2023. Cut aug 2024 to 43k. Frozen 52 weeks. Now 47k. Couple new houses, but nothing different really.

 

[RollinRural]

How quickly did they cut you the first time and do they plan on doing it again?
It has to suck to have all your work for the past year go to someone else and you take the pay cut, while they get the raise.

Was cut last summer of 2024, all routes were overburdened. everyone became a 43k and new routes were created.
We just got the results, so I have no idea if or when they will adjust to 43k again. I’m sure this varies by region.

 

[FrozenToes]

Was cut last summer of 2024, all routes were overburdened. everyone became a 43k and new routes were created.
We just got the results, so I have no idea if or when they will adjust to 43k again. I’m sure this varies by region.

Not sure of the accuracy. But heard next round are offices with 10 routes or less.

 

[RollinRural]

Not sure of the accuracy. But heard next round are offices with 10 routes or less.

Yeah it looks like the priority is to close small delivery units with the goal of further consolidation to save money.
The problem is they don’t even think about building new offices for those of us in medium sized offices with explosive growth.
Gotta love rrecs though
BEST THING EVER!!!

 

[Haygrrl]

Do you work more than your evaluation? Just asking . If not, you are already getting paid hourly and then some .

Correction: I saw your disclaimer late . So according to your own saying you are not in a position to judge RRECS actually. So I would redirect my question to those who are actually working under RRECS last few years and still feel the way you feel . I believe there will not be many . Maybe a handful

Nope
I've been fighting for hourly for years, before rrecs, ..we just had this conversation (again), today..we allllll would rather be hourly. I especially feel for the truly remote rural carriers who have inconsistent or no cell coverage
Pure bs...all of it

 

[Gotrope]

I believe you . Your route should not have been part of rural delivery from all the things I heard so far . But in any case rules are meant to be crafted with overwhelming majority in mind . Not with exceptions . By the way , correct me if I am wrong, didn’t you work just 1 mms under RRECS ?

Btw, I have no issues with changes in volume reflecting in pay. I have no issues understanding those who refused to participate in their pay would lose.
I did have issues with others affecting my rt status. I was on union status mostly last few years. But, it shouldn't be to my detriment that I worked for carriers and lost benefits because USPS couldn't train their own employees. They preferred wage theft. This was the common theme at area area meetings from mgmt. It's not their fault carriers are too lazy to understand their pay...

 

[jsthere723]

Btw, I have no issues with changes in volume reflecting in pay. I have no issues understanding those who refused to participate in their pay would lose.
I did have issues with others affecting my rt status. I was on union status mostly last few years. But, it shouldn't be to my detriment that I worked for carriers and lost benefits because USPS couldn't train their own employees. They preferred wage theft. This was the common theme at area area meetings from mgmt. It's not their fault carriers are too lazy to understand their pay...

I hear you . Frankly , I believe the requirement that RCAs need to stay under 40 hrs to receive evaluation pay should be scrapped. And they should increase RCA pay little bit more and make them hourly (daily ) . Then probably they will learn . Otherwise, no matter how much training you provide to them they will take short cut