Evaluation Results

[ATCBigE]

you have no way to confirm that any of rrecs is accurate. Yes you can look at the numbers but you have to take their word for the accuracy. I retired after the first count when I went from a 45 k to a 40 h. There’s no way a 100 mile rural route can drop that much. My route was very rural with spotty cell service. They were shorting me twelve miles a day and continually kept closing boxes that had never been vacant. I constantly fought them with no help from the useless union. So I finally decided it was time to go. It was the best decision I’ve ever made. I just hope that someday the cheating will be exposed and the usps will have to pay up. But I’m not holding my breath.

That's the issue with RRECS. They have all numbers. We have just in general what our numbers are and are "trust them." You can't figure anything out to double check their math.

My issue is coverage factor. I have dropped 13% in curb and 21% in CBUs in 2 years. THERE IS NO WAY I HAVE LOST THAT MUCH! Sure I lost 2 boxholders but one of those was already on HEAVY MONDAY! So losing that boxholder shouldn't have affected me that much.

It's just flat out ridiculous we can't see the numbers of everything. Where's this so called database I WAS PROMISED TO SEE MY NUMBERS?!?!?!

 

[U caught my attention]

Do you work more than your evaluation? Just asking . If not, you are already getting paid hourly and then some .

I believe it all comes down to this quote by jsthere. We are in a cycle of the aforementioned supporting the validity and fairness of the system. We can collectively change our circumstances, but we wont.

 

[Beanut]

You people are insane if you think forcing RCAs to go hourly is the answer. There would be no reason not to reapply for city at that point. We have to use our own vehicles, subpar pay, no guarantee of conversion, no guaranteed PTF position, no guarantee of hours or days off, and now you want us to lose out on the evaluation system because of a few bad apples? And you people wonder why RCA retention rate is so darn low. How about, instead of constantly shoveling crap onto the RCAs just so the regulars can benefit, you actually propose a solution that benefits both? For example, when we, the dreaded RCAs, go past 40, we should retain evaluation pay and then just get paid 1.5x for every actual hour past 40 worked.

Of course this won't happen. I stay longer on EoS than half the regulars in my office. I do a proper load time every day. I will take stuff to the door even if it would technically fit in the box. I do all my scans. If your route is suffering that much, there's a good chance that your RCA is only a very, very small part of the problem. You could also be part of the problem and not realize it. More likely, the PO is screwing you over. Please stop trying to screw me over in return.

You are an ideal RCA. I had one for a blissful 5 month. That’s how long it took for them to get chased out by my egotistical jerk PM. They transferred (at my suggestion) instead of quitting. But now another office gets the RCA I worked so hard training and she was doing so well. She really understood that every RRECS activity counts and will also benefit her in the long run.

 

[She mails rural]

Just my two cents, If we go hourly we will work 40 hours a week and top out at 76K a year. I don't know about you, but I enjoy my 91K a year especially since most my days are under 7 hours a day. I like having the option to work a J or H for more money. If we go hourly then I assume so does J,s and H's and 45K and 46J's.

I'm not understanding how you know if you was hourly paid what your salary would be? I assume you'd be happy with your hourly wage as of now? I also don't see why understanding 7 hours would have to change? We are rural craft not city, not clerks. I myself would expect my union to make sure hourly wage to be nice and fair and I'd work until I was done with my tour and that depends on how much mail I receive. So working 6 hours or 8 should still be a fair wage for the day and anything over 8 hours is overtime. Plus ema. The most bonuses to me is the thought of never ever never to worry about a drama filled flawed system always messing up my wages every 6 months. I'm just saying to me it's a win win for both sides.

 

[jsthere723]

I'm not understanding how you know if you was hourly paid what your salary would be? I assume you'd be happy with your hourly wage as of now? I also don't see why understanding 7 hours would have to change? We are rural craft not city, not clerks. I myself would expect my union to make sure hourly wage to be nice and fair and I'd work until I was done with my tour and that depends on how much mail I receive. So working 6 hours or 8 should still be a fair wage for the day and anything over 8 hours is overtime. Plus ema. The most bonuses to me is the thought of never ever never to worry about a drama filled flawed system always messing up my wages every 6 months. I'm just saying to me it's a win win for both sides.

Okidoki

 

[fable]

I understand that packages can't be under 2 mins. All I was trying to say (with my point) is you don't whether you are losing 2 mins average a package or 3.5 mins a package or 5 mins a package. YOU KNOW NOTHING as they would say because NO ONE CAN SEE THAT STUFF. That's the whole issue with this. Everything is more top secret than the Epstein files. It's such a joke because RRECS could be a great thing but without the transparency THAT THE UNION PROMISE US, it's a joke.

I have mixture of both on route. Houses that are literally few from boxes and houses almost mile round trip.

I agree....it's the lack of transparency and timely evalutations...not getting paid when you're up but losing money when you're down...i get it

 

[fable]

This from page 69 of The RRECS Guide , in part ;

When the carrier delivers an item with a barcode, they indicate on the MDD, where that
parcel was delivered: either Mailbox, Parcel Locker, or Door. The credit applied to each
item depends on where it is delivered, period. If the carrier indicated the item was
delivered to the mailbox or a parcel locker, the item is credited as a small‐medium
parcel. If the carrier indicated the item was delivered to the door, it is credited as a
large parcel.

after losing amazon this month, I'm about to carry every dang spur to the door to not be financially ruined this april

 

[Goggles Pizano]

my 4241a showed as vacant, lol, looks like they dropped me from my route.

 

[66stang]

I remember the old way where could plug in our numbers in the calculator on the union website and we would pretty much know that day. My route always came out according to those calculations. No need to take weeks.

 

[jsthere723]

I remember the old way where could plug in our numbers in the calculator on the union website and we would pretty much know that day. My route always came out according to those calculations. No need to take weeks.

Yes . 2 weeks data ( which you and management both keeping ) vs 52 weeks of more detailed data ( which you are not keeping and management also not keeping properly due to inefficiency ) . You can’t plug it in if you don’t have it

 

[ATCBigE]

I remember the old way where could plug in our numbers in the calculator on the union website and we would pretty much know that day. My route always came out according to those calculations. No need to take weeks.

That was what was nice about the old count. This one you have NO !#@#$@#ING CLUE WHAT YOU WILL GET. They will give you what they want to give you. Coverage factor plays major role in that.

I wish there was way to do it now because I mean if I get cut another hour I have lost almost 11k in 2 and half years yet I have more boxes, miles, stops, outgoing mail, and package pick ups than before