Wildcatskier50
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Similar to an old office of mine, seasonal route, everyone goes south. Regular kept majority of boxes open up until just before retirement. Every year , like clockwork. Bad example for them to set for the rcas.
Had my first crappy day today.....and ready to rant
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lbpd16
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As I mentioned in another post I am really perplexed by the way postal employees are paid.I thought I was doing the right thing by cleaning out full mailboxes but apparently it a very bad thing because as I am figuring out it can lead to a downsized route and apparently the route is paid by number of boxes and or miles. I'm really not sureI also get told by other RCA's, "Did you put that down on your time sheet?" for some things. One thing was the survey when you have to scan so many mail pieces on your route. Someone else told me we are only paid for one trip to the 3M case. Paid for one of these, paid for one of those......I'm totally confused and nobody has really explained to me what we are paid for and how many of what we are paid for.All I know is I come do work and I do what has to be done. I really don't have time to figure out and remember how many of these or those I should do. If my case gets full of 3M mail I make a trip. If I have to do it 5 or 6 time then so be it.I just need to know what not to do to cause my regular any grief when he's gone.
Ibpd16 -- "As I mentioned in another post I am really perplexed by the way postal employees are paid."
-- To put it simply, ah forget simply!
-- Regular carriers are paid what ever the route's evaluated hours is. The evaluated hours are determined when ever the USPS and NRCLA conduct a mail count, which can be 2 or 3 weeks. Work under the evaluated hours, one gets paid the evaluation. Work over the evaluated hours and you are giving the USPS free work! That's the incentive to find ways to streamline your work hours.
-- New Taskings, i.e., a new scanner function, for instance, should be paid via the 8127 for regulars or 1314-A for RCA's. Best to note the time for any new tasking on the 4240 ( and make copies, with manglement's permission ).
-- RCA's working the regular's relief day are paid the route's evaluation.
-- RCA's assisting where ever needed are paid hourly via the "green card".
-- AUX carriers and PTF's have their own way too.
"apparently the route is paid by number of boxes and or miles. I'm really not sure..
-- Get a copy of the 4241-M ( Rural Route Evaluation Worksheet ) Should be part of the 2018 Mail Count Guide. It lists the data and time factors that determine a route's evaluation during a count.
" Someone else told me we are only paid for one trip to the 3M case. Paid for one of these, paid for one of those......I'm totally confused and nobody has really explained to me what we are paid for and how many of what we are paid for."
-- That would be addressed during a count as a timed event, hence part of the evaluated time for the route. New tasking are paid as mentioned above.
"I just need to know what not to do to cause my regular any grief when he's gone."
-- YOU are the "regular carrier" for the route when you fill in for the regular. Worry more about getting the job done correctly, than causing the regular any grief.
-- As pointed out previously by "callofthewild" and others, some regular carriers do most anything to keep the route's evaluation as it is, instead of following proper procedures and having the evaluation go down.
-- To put it simply, ah forget simply!
-- Regular carriers are paid what ever the route's evaluated hours is. The evaluated hours are determined when ever the USPS and NRCLA conduct a mail count, which can be 2 or 3 weeks. Work under the evaluated hours, one gets paid the evaluation. Work over the evaluated hours and you are giving the USPS free work! That's the incentive to find ways to streamline your work hours.
-- New Taskings, i.e., a new scanner function, for instance, should be paid via the 8127 for regulars or 1314-A for RCA's. Best to note the time for any new tasking on the 4240 ( and make copies, with manglement's permission ).
-- RCA's working the regular's relief day are paid the route's evaluation.
-- RCA's assisting where ever needed are paid hourly via the "green card".
-- AUX carriers and PTF's have their own way too.
"apparently the route is paid by number of boxes and or miles. I'm really not sure..
-- Get a copy of the 4241-M ( Rural Route Evaluation Worksheet ) Should be part of the 2018 Mail Count Guide. It lists the data and time factors that determine a route's evaluation during a count.
" Someone else told me we are only paid for one trip to the 3M case. Paid for one of these, paid for one of those......I'm totally confused and nobody has really explained to me what we are paid for and how many of what we are paid for."
-- That would be addressed during a count as a timed event, hence part of the evaluated time for the route. New tasking are paid as mentioned above.
"I just need to know what not to do to cause my regular any grief when he's gone."
-- YOU are the "regular carrier" for the route when you fill in for the regular. Worry more about getting the job done correctly, than causing the regular any grief.
-- As pointed out previously by "callofthewild" and others, some regular carriers do most anything to keep the route's evaluation as it is, instead of following proper procedures and having the evaluation go down.
callofthewild
Well-known member
Ibpd16.........for sure there is a lot to learn working for the USPS.....just keep coming here to this Forum and asking questions.You will get a kick out of this....I cleaned out a mailbox a couple of months back....because of unclaimed mail. So yesterday I get a note in the mailbox...."WHERE IS MY MAIL, I HAVE BEEN GONE SINCE MARCH 13th AND WAS WONDERING WHERE I NEED TO GO TO PICK IT UP? " ...it has been RTS (returned to sender) so sorry.......told the guy....I will reopen the mailbox when I return to PO. Today the guy is out talking to his neighbor (neighbor retired from PO) Said, "sorry about your mail, but rules are rules and then I pointed to the guy that retired from the PO and said....ask him.....the retired mailman said " I didn't know if the Post Office still returned unclaimed mail or not, but when I worked for them we did." The retired rural mailman just grinned .....rules are rules.When I took over the route....that I am now assigned to.....it was a mess.....I lost just at 17 boxes the first day I ran it....because of dead boxes that hadn't been closed...and were stuffed full of mail.....told myself.....would never do that to another carrier.
lbpd16
Well-known member
I came across a couple more full boxes but the regular will be back friday so I'm not gonna worry about those now.There are several boxes that are severely damaged, doors missing, doors that won't close, one just sitting on the post not secured to it. If the route was mine I would do what I could do to get those boxes in decent shape.I also have a problem with a couple non-working vehicles that are close enough to the box as to interrupt my approach. I don't know if anything can be done, but again, the regular is back friday.No other issues really. My times are getting better but it seems something comes up every day that causes me to lose time.
justasinger
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If I have a parcel that would fit in the mail receptacle had it been empty, I leave a 3849.
