Highway contract routes

[jthomas7768]

Hi I was wondering if anyone can tell me where to send the application In for the HCR I can’t find an address anywhere

 

[btdtret]

jthomas7768 -- "I was wondering if anyone can tell me where to send the application In for the HCR I can’t find an address anywhere."

-- If there are HCR carriers in your office, ask them.

-- If manglement is creating an HCR route in the office, ask manglement.

-- Google: "handbook sp-1" That is the handbook for Highway Contract Routes -- Contract Delivery Service.

-- If you are an RCA or a regular carrier, you'll have to resign from the NRLCA in order to avoid a contflict of interest if you go to work on an HCR.

 

[Morty]

There's a website. You have to create a lengthy profile. It takes a while to get approved. Then you can start bidding. You resign AFTER you win.

I signed up after becoming an RCA and would bid on local stuff. Obviously i never won a bid?

 

[Windindaface]

My former RCA was lowest bidder for HC. Lost Bid. Explained to me... You must be off the USPS books prior to bidding in order to officially win it.

 

[Jmdw52]

I’m an rca, I didn’t bid on an HCR or have the route myself... however, if you want to work on one for extra hours and the contractor that holds the HCR route hires you... you can get approval from usps ethics board to do that.... I just recently got approved for this. It has to be worded that it won’t interfere with normal duties as an rca however.

 

[Windindaface]

In my area most HC routes would fall under H/J routes. HC routes are SCABS taking money away from RURAL Carriers. If HC routes can not find coverage and an RCA is used they must pay the RCA their current rate and EMA which is normally more expensive. My office HC run is under bid and that is why we can't absorb it as a REG route.

I mention the EMA because when our HC was out with no coverage the RCA refused to drive their ride offered because of no conversion kit. RCA got their rate and EMA. The money owed to the RCA was taken out of their MONTHLY pay from the Machine.

 

[Sprocket]

jthomas7768 -- "I was wondering if anyone can tell me where to send the application In for the HCR I can’t find an address anywhere."

-- If there are HCR carriers in your office, ask them.

-- If manglement is creating an HCR route in the office, ask manglement.

-- Google: "handbook sp-1" That is the handbook for Highway Contract Routes -- Contract Delivery Service.

-- If you are an RCA or a regular carrier, you'll have to resign from the NRLCA in order to avoid a contflict of interest if you go to work on an HCR.

-- If you are an RCA or a regular carrier, you'll have to resign from the NRLCA in order to avoid a contflict of interest if you go to work on an HCR.

Not true, although it certainly would be no loss.

 

[Sprocket]

One of the companies that does the hc routes is Postal Fleet.
I say even if you have to work as an rca for 3-5 years before going regular, it’s worth it. The contractors in our office always complain when they see one of the postal employees get a day off. They can hire someone to sub for them, but they can never find anyone. But then again the PO can’t seem to find RCA’s either. For the older contractors, when they complain about never having a day off, I always ask “why didn’t you just work for the post office?” And when the younger ones complain, I always bring up the fact that they can become an RCA today if they want. We are always hiring. They go into contract routes because they don’t want to go through being an RCA.

Not true

 

[Sprocket]

In my area most HC routes would fall under H/J routes. HC routes are SCABS taking money away from RURAL Carriers. If HC routes can not find coverage and an RCA is used they must pay the RCA their current rate and EMA which is normally more expensive. My office HC run is under bid and that is why we can't absorb it as a REG route.

I mention the EMA because when our HC was out with no coverage the RCA refused to drive their ride offered because of no conversion kit. RCA got their rate and EMA. The money owed to the RCA was taken out of their MONTHLY pay from the Machine.

I work for a Highway Contractor and get treated MUCH better than i ever have being an RCA

I'm not a scab. The only route in my VERY, VERY RURAL office is an HCR. The PO has no reason to put a regular route there.

You should watch what you say before shooting off your mouth.

 

[Sprocket]

I’m an rca, I didn’t bid on an HCR or have the route myself... however, if you want to work on one for extra hours and the contractor that holds the HCR route hires you... you can get approval from usps ethics board to do that.... I just recently got approved for this. It has to be worded that it won’t interfere with normal duties as an rca however.

I've been doing both for 5 years and have 3 subs....all of them want me to die so they can have the route.

Get treated well, pay is fantastic, the PM leaves us alone and includes us in all office festivities.

But, as wind says, I am a scab.

 

[Sprocket]

My former RCA was lowest bidder for HC. Lost Bid. Explained to me... You must be off the USPS books prior to bidding in order to officially win it.

not true. check your facts.

 

[Sprocket]

Besides, if you are proud of your job, why the hell would you throw a little temper tantrum. You can just state your facts and move on. There would be no reason to be butthurt in the first place!

You're running your childish mouth not even knowing what you're talking about, again.

Didn't like being called a scab, I don't believe you said it anyway.

But, you're the expert in this forum.

Read the posts and what they say before your diarrhea comes up your throat.

 

[Sprocket]

I pay useless Union dues, get no support from them and don't have to deal with egghead postmasters or clueless, uninformed Union geeks working HCR route.

Let me explain again: I have 3 subs that wish and can't wait until I go full time at the PO. I could easily hire 2 more. Everyone gets days off when they want them. No Leave slips. No worries about missing a graduation.

Wind must be right, I am a scab for taking work from postal carriers....they would love to take their day off.

No worry about Christmas, working Sundays, hgaving your sub call in so you're forced in.

Try it sometime.

 

[btdtret]

Sprocket et al -- "If you are an RCA or a regular carrier, you'll have to resign from the NRLCA in order to avoid a conflict of interest if you go to work on an HCR. Not true.."

-- My apologies. Apparently times and things have changed since I left the post office.

-- We had Contract Routes in the office and RCA's were told they could not remain an RCA if going to work on a Contract Route.

-- One carrier posted here some time ago that current USPS employees are among those listed as ineligible suppliers on the Postal Service intranet. blue.usps.gov/purchase/infrastructure.debar.htm.

 

[btdtret]

Windindaface et al -- "HC routes are scabs taking money away from Rural Carriers."

-- Since it is the USPS's calculations that determines if a route can be done more cost efficiently by a HC or a Rural Carrier, point the fickle finger at the USPS.

 

[Sprocket]

Well, like I said, sorry if I offended you. I have a great deal of respect for most of the contractors at our office. I actually like all of them. But the complaining about a rural getting a day off is stupid because the RCA job is right there waiting for everyone.
And yes absolutely you will get treated like the lowest turd on the planet as an RCA. So you kinda just reiterated what I was saying—that the contractors don’t want to go through that. I understand that completely. It sucks. I hate it.
the problem I had and why I basically called you out is for telling me to watch what I say before shooting off my mouth. Or something along those lines. Idk. So yeah, that’s why you got a mouthful!

Again, it wasn't you.

Truce. I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone else on here.

 

[MiddleOfNowhere]

the contract carriers may or maynot be making out okay. at one time, one guy in the area had 6 contract routes, and was subbing out the labor at low pay, while supplying the trucks for his drivers. if he was skimming off $8-10k a year from his drivers, plus making a little with mileage, he actually didn't need to drive himself.

 

[callofthewild]

The HCR carrier in our office has a Contract for $79,000.00 per year, excellent Carrier and I would never call this Carrier a scab. People, it is the Postal Service that put the job out there and think it is cheaper to run it this way. This HCR Route has been a contract route for at least 60 years in this area.

 

[callofthewild]

Right at 80 miles/500 boxes....i would say a 44/45K.....

 

[Morty]

I didn't even realize there was such a thing as a contract route. I would imagine it's quite a bit cheaper. Don't have to pay Insurance premiums, pension, TSP matching etc... Just curious how big this 79k route is?

There's a similar priced one in my office. 20 miles, 300 boxes of which over 1/2 are seasonal and 2 big apartment complexes. Would take a competent carrier 15 minutes to case and 45 minutes to deliver. But a big outfit got the bid and subbed out the route to a local retiree just lookin for a little extra cash.