2goatspastnormal
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What happens if you are scheduled to help at another post office, but then are needed at your home office? Is there a set policy? or does it just depend on your PM?
Home office vs other office
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Skierstmoritz
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Yes. Your home office takes precedence. The other office is sol.
Deer Smearer
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Been 15yrs but I used to work two other offices besides my home office, my PM would call me every time she thought I was working somewhere else. I pretty much had a regular day going at one place. I have been almost to work at the other places sometimes when she would call so I would ignore it cuz it was so late, I'd get to the other office and she had already called and told them to send me her way.
Skierstmoritz
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]I beg to differ. As an rca, I always got pulled back to my home office, even when scheduled in another town
too many yrs left
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No, I've never seen it done this way. PM's in general would not want to deny someone the use of their own employee. This would only prompt supervisors to never allow you to be scheduled somewhere else. I could see a manager trying to deny the regular an annual leave day but if that RCA is truly needed in their home office that is where they'll be.
2goatspastnormal
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Voglio-il mio
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The way skierstmoritz thinks, is the way that I understand it as well, it happened to me twice back in the day. But maybe the two PM worked it out between them to send me back, I don't know?
2goatspastnormal et al -- "What happens if you are scheduled to help at another post office, but then are needed at your home office? Is there a set policy? or does it just depend on your PM? "
-- That is an interesting situation, which the NRLCA most likely never considered.
-- So far the best I can find is from the Special Contract Edition 2019, page 11: Note: Management may not schedule a relief carrier to work in another office it that relief carrier is contractually entitled to work in their assigned office on that day.
-- WIth due respect to both:
- "Skierstmoritz" -- "Yes. Your home office takes precedence. The other office is sol."
- "Deer smearer" -- "Once scheduled at another office you're not considered available."
-- Gentlemen or anyone else -- do you have a reference you can share?
-- That is an interesting situation, which the NRLCA most likely never considered.
-- So far the best I can find is from the Special Contract Edition 2019, page 11: Note: Management may not schedule a relief carrier to work in another office it that relief carrier is contractually entitled to work in their assigned office on that day.
-- WIth due respect to both:
- "Skierstmoritz" -- "Yes. Your home office takes precedence. The other office is sol."
- "Deer smearer" -- "Once scheduled at another office you're not considered available."
-- Gentlemen or anyone else -- do you have a reference you can share?
2goatspastnormal
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Thank you for looking that up.
It's not my assigned day to work in my home office, but one carrier had an emergency.
It is a tricky situation, and one way or another, one office ends up scrambling.
It would be nice if there was a set policy. Maybe each district has their own procedures?
Deer Smearer
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btdtret, your database is better than mine.
There are 2 similar settlements. One says while nice to consult the regular carrier before scheduling subs on different routes it is not required.
The one that is pertinent says something like...
We understand subs may desire to earn additional hours by going to other offices. Then if scheduled, unavailable.
I'm too old, or too tired (or both) to find it now.
Maybe you'll have better luck.
Deer Smearer
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I've found that one. The one I'm still looking for is as I mentioned earlier.
too many yrs left
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But I think we're discussing two different things. The above concerns scheduling within the home office. RCA's don't "belong" to the route so although their main responsibility may lie with the primary route if they are needed somewhere else in the office the regular may just be out of luck. But the RCA DOES belong to the office. If another office needs help PM's are certainly willing to work with each other to help someone else out but as soon as a PM tries to screw another Post Office that will bring an end to that. I don't think you'll find anything in the contract etc...
Deer Smearer
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Voglio-il mio
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This addresses scheduled leave but still doesn't really answer the question if an RCA can be called back to cover a sick call!
Deer Smearer
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I agree. Everything the USPS and/or the NRLCA agree upon has wiggle room.
When offices get along they work it out. When they don't fur flies.
The times I've seen the fur fly the scheduled office won. The argument was if a primary sub is scheduled in their office, but not on their primary, and their route needs coverage, the primary isn't available even though it's their primary route.
The only 2 exceptions to "already scheduled" that I have found are 5/1 subs running their aux are not considered unavailable for their "1" & non craft specific, like scheduled to run express or collections doesn't make them unavailable.
The reason this issue will probably never be clarified further is it is a dispute between stupidvisors, not craft and manglement.
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Once scheduled, as in accepted the assignment, the carrier is no longer available. But what PM is going to want to burn bridges and make enemies of the person who "helped" him out by making or allowing the loan? That's why they won't fight them being yanked back "home" at the last minute. Not right, but it's "the way they do it". To live and let live, keeping a network of favors they can collect on when the time comes...instead of flying solo in turbulent air.
Deer Smearer
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True. But when there is a good sub assisting at a friendly appreciative office, and their designated office is overrun with idiots, fur flies.
P.S. my office is overrun with idiots.
and the RCA being moved around will probably never raise a stink over being treated like a pawn in a po chess game. 1st, they don't know this rule, or have any idea the letter of clarification exists, and 2nd, they fear for their future prospects if they make trouble. So it goes on, whether the PM(s) know they aren't 'doing it right' or not.
PPS mine too
