how to get the union to get us paid delivering wsh/erlot again

[jsthere723]

Just to confirm: PM in another office (that I know personally) is adamant that we ARE being credited for ALL political mail. I tend to believe what I read on here tho. He has zero reason to mislead me, other than the fact that he might be being told something different by his bosses. So.....are we, or are we not, being paid/credited for ALL political mail?

Cannot tell for sure . But enough mms has gone by already . I definitely has seen some increase in number for the credit of carrier routed flats in 2 mms where political mail is part of duration as opposed to 2 mms where it is not . So I am inclined to believe it is getting counted. But to which degree who knows . You need 4241m to see the difference.

Is it a definite proof of things ? Absolutely not . But I am inclined to believe it is

 

[jsthere723]

Someone correct me if my understanding is wrong. They are also somehow determining the cost of universal service with all this data we are collecting. Its a weird web of uncertainty in terms of how and what data is captured. How I understand the data we help collect, it is ultimately used to determine our cost contribution to the usps that will result in product pricing and the cost to the nation for universal service. I dont know what they do with frozen route data in terms of how they determine our cost to them.
So, in my opinion, this data capture should be pretty darn accurate, systematically followed, transparent and verifiable. If it isnt than garbage in = garbage out. We are each individually responsible for proper data collection for the common good and sustainability of our crafts involvement within the system. The data collection has always seemed bigger to me than our future routes evaluation that results in our individual pay.
Looking from this perspective, it kind of then makes one see overburdened and substandard routes in a new light. It also made me see my actions and the proper data collection matter. Improper volune collection that results in under collection or over collection will ultimately filter to a costing structure that will determine future pricing and service.

You are understanding alright. For the purpose of cost analysis/ pricing practice this data capture is alright I believe . Because data capture for frozen routes is not stopped . Data is getting captured alright for every route . Only thing is happening some data is getting stored in route A instead of correct route B and vice versa during frozen period . So for national, regional, district and even Upto office level all the data’s are correct . It is not correct for individual route level

 

[Rural-life-0323]

Just to confirm: PM in another office (that I know personally) is adamant that we ARE being credited for ALL political mail. I tend to believe what I read on here tho. He has zero reason to mislead me, other than the fact that he might be being told something different by his bosses. So.....are we, or are we not, being paid/credited for ALL political mail?

Yes it shows up on the report. The problem is USPS is only using the last 6 weeks of data before the end of the evaluation periods for certain things to figure out certain volumes. In particular bundle type credits for cased-mail credits and better box-time allowances.

So yes, it may or may not show up on the reports, however this will all be over WELL before the 6 weeks that they use to analyze your next evaluation with bundled flats, and also the 400 piece standard.

Apparently it's a complete lie that they use all 52 weeks worth of data on certain things and the contention is it was decided "behind closed doors".

On a side note, apparently everyone should be looking at their RADAR reports for slow days and if you see 399 pieces of DPS or less outside of that 6 week window, you need to file an individual grievances because you aren't being paid correctly for those days.

 

[ATCBigE]

Cannot tell for sure . But enough mms has gone by already . I definitely has seen some increase in number for the credit of carrier routed flats in 2 mms where political mail is part of duration as opposed to 2 mms where it is not . So I am inclined to believe it is getting counted. But to which degree who knows . You need 4241m to see the difference.

Is it a definite proof of things ? Absolutely not . But I am inclined to believe it is

But also have to think about this.

Time of most political ads is when the catalog start showing up more too. So honestly no way to prove anything with RRECS.

We were lied to by our union. Given this POS RADAR report which can take multiple days to show up stuff.

I mean why does it 3+ days at points to have accurate numbers. The whole system is a SCAM IMO